Today is not the first time getting black screens trying to use Plasma's app menu. KDM and XDM are the only installed DMs. After duping to 20190307 (32bit today, but other TW installations 64 bit), first attempt to multi-user.target startx Plasma session produced a black screen. I killed the session, deleted content of ~/.cache/, then tried again. Session opened normally, but attempting to open an app from menu turned the screen black. I had to move the mouse near upper right corner and left click to unblack the screen. Then I right clicked the starter to see what the menu style is (non-default, KDE3-style) and the screen turned black again, this time non-recoverably except to close the session via remote login. .xsession-errors was last written 2 months ago. If journal or dmesg contain clues, I'm missing them. Ctrl-Alt-BS instead of closing the session powered down the PC. On reboot IceWM from startx worked as expected. Reboot without vga=791 or video=1440x900@60 and with 5 produces working KDM and succeeds to open IceWM working as expected. Plasma from KDM is still blacking the screen in similar fashion to opening from startx. Right click on desktop also blacks, and Ctrl-Alt-BS worked as expected on last try. # inxi -G Graphics: Device-1: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD/ATI] RV370 [Radeon X600/X600 SE] driver: radeon v: kernel Display: server: X.org 1.20.4 driver: ati,radeon unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,vesa tty: 189x52 # uname -a Linux gx151 4.20.13-1-pae #1 SMP Wed Feb 27 18:03:26 UTC 2019 (fb7c4a5) i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux -- Evolution as taught in public schools is religion, not science. Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-support+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-support+owner@opensuse.org