[opensuse-support][TW] menus black Plasma screen
Today is not the first time getting black screens trying to use Plasma's app menu. KDM and XDM are the only installed DMs. After duping to 20190307 (32bit today, but other TW installations 64 bit), first attempt to multi-user.target startx Plasma session produced a black screen. I killed the session, deleted content of ~/.cache/, then tried again. Session opened normally, but attempting to open an app from menu turned the screen black. I had to move the mouse near upper right corner and left click to unblack the screen. Then I right clicked the starter to see what the menu style is (non-default, KDE3-style) and the screen turned black again, this time non-recoverably except to close the session via remote login. .xsession-errors was last written 2 months ago. If journal or dmesg contain clues, I'm missing them. Ctrl-Alt-BS instead of closing the session powered down the PC. On reboot IceWM from startx worked as expected. Reboot without vga=791 or video=1440x900@60 and with 5 produces working KDM and succeeds to open IceWM working as expected. Plasma from KDM is still blacking the screen in similar fashion to opening from startx. Right click on desktop also blacks, and Ctrl-Alt-BS worked as expected on last try. # inxi -G Graphics: Device-1: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD/ATI] RV370 [Radeon X600/X600 SE] driver: radeon v: kernel Display: server: X.org 1.20.4 driver: ati,radeon unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,vesa tty: 189x52 # uname -a Linux gx151 4.20.13-1-pae #1 SMP Wed Feb 27 18:03:26 UTC 2019 (fb7c4a5) i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux -- Evolution as taught in public schools is religion, not science. Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-support+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-support+owner@opensuse.org
Op maandag 11 maart 2019 01:22:29 CET schreef Felix Miata:
Today is not the first time getting black screens trying to use Plasma's app menu. KDM and XDM
KDM is not a default, SSDM is. Try that.
are the only installed DMs. After duping to 20190307 (32bit today, but other TW installations 64 bit), first attempt to multi-user.target startx Plasma session produced a black screen. I killed the session, deleted content of ~/.cache/, then tried again. Session opened normally, but attempting to open an app from menu turned the screen black. I had to move the mouse near upper right corner and left click to unblack the screen. Then I right clicked the starter to see what the menu style is (non-default, KDE3-style) and the screen turned black again, this time non-recoverably except to close the session via remote login. .xsession-errors was last written 2 months ago. If journal or dmesg contain clues, I'm missing them. Ctrl-Alt-BS instead of closing the session powered down the PC.
On reboot IceWM from startx worked as expected.
Reboot without vga=791 or video=1440x900@60 and with 5 produces working KDM and succeeds to open IceWM working as expected. Plasma from KDM is still blacking the screen in similar fashion to opening from startx. Right click on desktop also blacks, and Ctrl-Alt-BS worked as expected on last try.
# inxi -G Graphics: Device-1: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD/ATI] RV370 [Radeon X600/X600 SE] driver: radeon v: kernel Display: server: X.org 1.20.4 driver: ati,radeon unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,vesa tty: 189x52 # uname -a Linux gx151 4.20.13-1-pae #1 SMP Wed Feb 27 18:03:26 UTC 2019 (fb7c4a5) i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux
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Knurpht-openSUSE composed on 2019-03-10 20:24 (UTC-0500):
Felix Miata:
Today is not the first time getting black screens trying to use Plasma's app menu. KDM and XDM
KDM is not a default, SSDM is. Try that.
We've been through this more than once. KDM was long ago deprecated, but still AFAIK SDDM and LightDM continue to omit required optionS I use, so are locked out until such time as one of them restores KDM functionality or KDM disappears from the mirrors. If the latter happens, I'll more likely switch to TDM or KDM3 if they still exist. I like the "unthemed" (aka default) greeter, much, more than any themed greeter I've ever glanced upon. Besides that, my most used test installation "runlevel" is multi-user, frequently starting and stopping startx sessions, mousing as little as practical. KDM is mainly used when I need to confirm behavior between the two session startup types does not produce different behavior in the X sessions. I suppose this may be a case where one of SDM or LightDM might be appropriate as a sort of bisect process, but no way am I going to switch more than temporarily. Also I was trying to do something else with this box https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1118689 and this diversion is apparently tangled with my attempts to follow up with it. I installed sddm anyway. All its greeter text except time/date is ridiculously small. Its time format is wrong. It flashes junk on the screen when I move the mouse, then blanks everything except time/date. It lists users who aren't allowed to login, omits the one needed, and offers no place to type username in manually. startx -- :1 produced black screen instead of working Plasma, and no mouse clicking was helpful. Ctrl-Alt-BS shut the PC down. When I keep my default vga=791 video=1440x900@60 on cmdline to boot (inconsistent with what's needed for bug 1118689 follow up, neither), sddm screen is pure black, no mouse, no keyboard response, systemctl isolate multi-user adds a cursor to otherwise black vttys, with salvation only via remote login. -- Evolution as taught in public schools is religion, not science. Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-support+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-support+owner@opensuse.org
Hi felix, i do not really think its the same, but i have had a couple of month problems after dup ing tw with black console. (sddm) here the problem was a smaller screensize inside grub commandline as monitor native use. (at the moment i have not dup to latest tw) before that update this line was always working fine for me: old resolution (for boot) was: video=1920x1200 showopts but in graphical session and monitor used: video=2560x1600 showopts after changing it everything worked again as it should again. simoN Am 11.03.19 um 02:34 schrieb Felix Miata:
Knurpht-openSUSE composed on 2019-03-10 20:24 (UTC-0500):
Felix Miata:
Today is not the first time getting black screens trying to use Plasma's app menu. KDM and XDM
KDM is not a default, SSDM is. Try that.
We've been through this more than once. KDM was long ago deprecated, but still AFAIK SDDM and LightDM continue to omit required optionS I use, so are locked out until such time as one of them restores KDM functionality or KDM disappears from the mirrors. If the latter happens, I'll more likely switch to TDM or KDM3 if they still exist. I like the "unthemed" (aka default) greeter, much, more than any themed greeter I've ever glanced upon.
Besides that, my most used test installation "runlevel" is multi-user, frequently starting and stopping startx sessions, mousing as little as practical. KDM is mainly used when I need to confirm behavior between the two session startup types does not produce different behavior in the X sessions.
I suppose this may be a case where one of SDM or LightDM might be appropriate as a sort of bisect process, but no way am I going to switch more than temporarily. Also I was trying to do something else with this box https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1118689 and this diversion is apparently tangled with my attempts to follow up with it.
I installed sddm anyway. All its greeter text except time/date is ridiculously small. Its time format is wrong. It flashes junk on the screen when I move the mouse, then blanks everything except time/date. It lists users who aren't allowed to login, omits the one needed, and offers no place to type username in manually.
startx -- :1 produced black screen instead of working Plasma, and no mouse clicking was helpful. Ctrl-Alt-BS shut the PC down.
When I keep my default vga=791 video=1440x900@60 on cmdline to boot (inconsistent with what's needed for bug 1118689 follow up, neither), sddm screen is pure black, no mouse, no keyboard response, systemctl isolate multi-user adds a cursor to otherwise black vttys, with salvation only via remote login.
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Felix Miata composed on 2019-03-10 20:22 (UTC-0500):
Today is not the first time getting black screens trying to use Plasma's app menu.
https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1079607 15.0B & TW20180203 Xorg terminates with error if Composite is disabled and https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1565402 Xorg server aborts when composite extension is disabled have new siblings. SDDM won't run without compositing, and Plasma's menu starter won't run without it. I'm not going to file SDDM's because I've already removed it and won't reinstall it. Before reporting on Plasma I'll need to see if it happens in Buster (1.20.3) and/or Fedora 30 (1.20.4) and 64 bit. -- Evolution as taught in public schools is religion, not science. Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-support+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-support+owner@opensuse.org
Felix Miata composed on 2019-03-11 00:27 (UTC-0500):
Felix Miata composed on 2019-03-10 20:22 (UTC-0500):
Before reporting on Plasma I'll need to see if it happens in Buster (1.20.3) and/or Fedora 30 (1.20.4) and 64 bit.
https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1128733 filed globally disabled composite extension makes plasma unusable -- Evolution as taught in public schools is religion, not science. Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-support+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-support+owner@opensuse.org
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