Gesendet: Samstag, 14. März 2020 um 22:05 Uhr Von: "Stasiek Michalski" <hellcp@opensuse.org> An: "Sarah Julia Kriesch" <ada.lovelace@gmx.de> Cc: Knurpht-openSUSE <knurpht@opensuse.org>, opensuse-project@opensuse.org Betreff: Re: [opensuse-project] Call for a No-Confidence Vote - Re-Election of the openSUSE board
On Sat, Mar 14, 2020 at 21:40, Sarah Julia Kriesch <ada.lovelace@gmx.de> wrote:
Gesendet: Samstag, 14. März 2020 um 21:15 Uhr Von: "Stasiek Michalski" <hellcp@opensuse.org> An: "Sarah Julia Kriesch" <ada.lovelace@gmx.de> Cc: Knurpht-openSUSE <knurpht@opensuse.org>, opensuse-project@opensuse.org Betreff: Re: [opensuse-project] Call for a No-Confidence Vote - Re-Election of the openSUSE board
This guy has represented himself (with the company signature!) on the same way during the application period with speaking bad about the openSUSE Heroes Team [1], myself and others. He had interacted on the same way in the openSUSE Board in the past and is doing so on our mailing lists continuously. Does that match our Code of Conduct or do we have special rules for such people?
This is simply a critique of status quo, not the effort of the contributors. Richard even goes as far as to point out: "(...)it's not the Board's job to tell our infrastructure volunteers or sponsors how to do their job."
I fail to understand how you can see this statement as disrespectful. It recognizes Heroes as trying their best.
I meant the bigger part: "To re-iterate my points in my original email - It is an objective fact that issues in both Provo and Nuremberg take too long to fix - There is no evidence that Provo issues take any longer than Nuremberg issues, therefore there is no evidence that moving openSUSE infra from Provo to Nuremberg is a good solution - Even if there was, I do not think is it appropriate for Board members to demand the course of action that sponsors or other volunteers will have to take out.
And because you were insulting enough to suggest I want a broken infrastructure, I will re-iterate here, of course I do not want a broken infrastructure[...]"
I am confused now, because none of this is in any way disrespectful...
If you are reading only one of these emails that can sound not disrespectfully. I would not escalate that because of 1 or 2 emails with such aggressive chant. I have an abudance of patience and try to turn that into positive in such a case. I am one Founder of the Heroes Team and know their feeling with MF-IT in the background. Do you mean that is no Board Member job to speak for them that they can transfer improved processes with a better infrastructure? Therefore, if you know the situation such a comment is disrespectful:
- There is no evidence that Provo issues take any longer than Nuremberg issues, therefore there is no evidence that moving openSUSE infra from Provo to Nuremberg is a good solution
Additionally, that is not only in one email. That is drawing a continuous line through the whole thread with the goal to damage my campaign.
Additionally, I have asked the Heroes Team for their wishes and my suggestions were exactly what they need. So in my point of view I have spoken as a Board Member candidate with "(...)it's not the Board's job to tell our infrastructure volunteers or sponsors how to do their job." in the best interest for the community and Richard against their wishes/ the Team.
Where is he against anything? He just stated he was dissatisfied with the admin@o.o's response time regardless of the location, and for all I know, this might have been the case for him. Denying somebody's experience and citing your own as if it was the whole truth is disrespectful. As a matter of fact, in this context, those exact experiences would have been an excellent opportunity to boost your platform in the vote by citing as concretely as he did. I just see this as a wasted opportunity.
Every time you bring up Richard you treat him like he is against you for some reason though, can't we all be friends instead?
I want to have peace in the community, too. That is not possible with disturbers. I don't treat anybody because of unique wrong actions. But sadly Richard has done similar things with other former Board Members (a long "mostly non-public" history), too. That does not have any end and continues on public mailing lists. You can watch that on opensuse-factory in the last weeks [0]. I would like speaking well about Richard and having a frienship as with everybody else in the community. But I am sorry so say that - that is not possible with such flouts and aggro from the other side. Best regards, Sarah
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