On 12/12/2016 07:11 PM, Ludwig Nussel wrote:
Aaron B wrote:
[...] 3. If somewhere in the distro's install we provide a way to opt for non-OSS software, I think it should be an opt-out. It would be fun to be able to have that as an opt-in (to non-free software) because it was not wanted by most, but I think in this case the membership probably cares less about non-OSS stuff the way we do it than they care about using perfect FOSS (I'm certainly open to contradiction here; my sample size is small, being just me, myself, and I). One more prompt during an install seems unnecessary. Perhaps on the summary screen before an install, where the Software is listed, a link could be there to disable the non-OSS packages, so it's nothing more than a click, like enabling sshd and opening the firewall port for it.
I'd rather like to see the extra screen where YaST asks for online repos removed and a generic link to list of online repos embedded into the installation summary screen instead. Those who really want to can disable the non-oss repo there then.
I was also in that discussion with RMS that Axel mentioned at the beginning of the thread (well, I actually started it :-) ). If the final goal is to be "blessed" by the FSF, the solution suggested by Ludwig would not be enough. The FSF will never endorse (that is, list as free in their site) a distro containing pointers to non-free software. No matter how many information we provide about it being not free or whether it's disabled by default. Not saying we should aim for it (I don't think so), just clarifying expectations. Cheers.
A better place to improve the awareness for non-free software are the actual software selection front-ends. If you look for example for opera in gnome-software it displays a hint that it may not be free software. Not sure how gnome-software finds out exactly but I'm sure such a mechanism could be built into YaST and zypper as well. We shouldn't block or annoy anyone when installing proprietary software but some unobtrusive notice would be nice IMO.
cu Ludwig
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