-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 06/09/2015 10:27 AM, Efstathios Iosifidis wrote:
2015-06-09 17:15 GMT+03:00 Klaas Freitag
: On 09.06.2015 14:21, Cornelius Schumacher wrote:
On Thursday 04 June 2015 08:13:59 Michal Hrusecky wrote:
We discussed this topic at not so recent openSUSE Board Face to Face meeting and touched it on oSC 15 during project meeting. Also taking under consideration the responses that were provided to a similar topic approximately 2 years ago, we (in the board) think it would be a good idea to implement something to help with that. Automatically monitor openSUSE Members activity on mailing lists, OBS, bugzilla, maybe more. Remember when we last saw openSUSE Member on any of those channels and if he doesn't show for for example one year, we can send him e-mail asking whether he still wants to be a member with a link to click to create artificial activity for the automat. And if he doesn't click on it in let's say month, we will retire him - he will be moved to openSUSE retired geekos group. If he comes back and want to be member again or if he was retired by accident, he can be made member again by just clicking on the link from the mail or by asking membership committee and they will approve him without any additional questions.
Automatic monitoring of general activity is difficult, error-prone, and can have all kind of unintended social side effects. It would need quite some effort.
I can not believe that we're really discussing "automatic monitoring of activity". The day on that becomes active will be my last in openSUSE. No, we do not wanna do that. We do not want to have a secret service.
I agree on that with Klaas. On the other hand I search the contributions of the TSP applications manually. I even ask advocates if they know the person. I guess, it'll help me on that. :-)
In KDE e.V. we do it this way for many years and it works quite well.
On the other hand, GNOME Foundation has re-evaluation after 2 years. Every 2 years we send an application to renew our membership, saying what we did during the past 2 years and we have 2 contact references. I don't know what happens if not renew. Never been there.
This goes along the lines of saying that over a certain period of time you have to show that you would pass the application again. I think this is as fair as other approaches. The question then is if the listed contributions should be verified by the membership committee or if it is just accept. However, even in this case there is data collection. At some level we are going to have to collect some data. Given the reasonable concern with a general "counter/monitor" we are going to have to walk a fine lin e. Later, Robert
Have fun, /S
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