On 2010-06-28 10:39, Rajko M. wrote:
On Monday 28 June 2010 00:32:31 Per Jessen wrote:
I guess that mail lists are just what people are used to, not what is better.
Let's not start that one.
Why not?
:-) There are technical reasons, and there are personal tastes. Then we (each person) chooses. :-) [mail]
- You have to subscribe to read the messages. I don't consider email archives as substitute, as you can't simply press the button and reply. It is hard to even refer to some earlier message on the list, unlike NNTP.
NNTP can require login/pass to post. If wanted. But once you subscribe to it, you can add new groups (or remove them) with a mouse click.
- You can't move message to appropriate group
I'm not sure you can do that on NNTP?
Usenet (NNTP) was always designed for the number of groups. The only problem that Usenet has is intentional openness, very much misused by spammers.
It can be restricted, too. Login/pass.
I got no such problems on Novell forums, with all other advantages over email list: - No cumbersome subscription process, choose server and group and you can read - You can read any message - You can easily answer it - It downloads only headers so you can discard messages before download
And you can download the contents for off-line reading. I did that this afternoon, at the tremendous speed of around 2..4 Kb/s. That's the problem of having only one server (as far as I know). It took about an hour or more for (I think) messages not older than 60 days - ie, not the entire archive.
- Messages are stored on server; if you can access server you can read all messages from anywhere (no imap, private server, and what not) - It has powerful filtering based on header info
It does not keep read tags across machines. I read my email on two machines using imap, and both keep in sync the read tags. I can't do that with NNTP, which is a problem for me.
- It is easy to refer to another post; you give subject, another user will copy and paste in a search field, and post will pop up. Try that with email. - it is post publishing moderated, so posts that don't fit are either moved or removed
On nntp too?
If we want openness, then we should not patch email service to allow what forums via NNTP had since ever, but use forums. It is simple to setup and use.
I don't like forums. Nntp is ok. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 11.2 x86_64 "Emerald" GM (Elessar))