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Re: [opensuse-project] independence
  • From: Trifle Menot <triflemenot@xxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 08 Jun 2010 13:20:50 +0000
  • Message-id: <201006081320.o58DKoKj024311@xxxxxxxxxx>
On Tue, 8 Jun 2010 14:32:32 +0200, Andreas Jaeger <aj@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Novell is a public traded company and it received an unfriendly offer for buy-
out that was rejected. Let's not speculate what will or could happen but
instead look where we want openSUSE to go.

* Own bugzilla:
Does it make sense to have a separate bugzilla that we need to administrate as
part of the project? For me right now the benefits of using the Novell
bugzilla outweight the limitations we have. My main concerns with moving
bugzillas are:
- engineers will hate to have to look into another bugzilla. So, Novell
engineers will look first for enterprise bugs into the Novell ones and then
later into the openSUSE one.

Yes that's a downside. But having opensuse bugzilla relying on Novell's
login infrastructure is an impediment to independence. When Novell
"goes away" you have a new problem to cope with. I think that's only a
matter of time.

What do you understand with full independence?

Like debian. They rely on corporate donations to provide their mirror
and download infrastructure.

IMO "independend from Novell" is the wrong question. I'd like to see Novell
as main sponsor (it hosts lots more than bugzilla in our datacenter, nearly
the whole infrastructure) and treated as such - but not as
dictator that everybody bows in front of and gets scared by it.

It does not worry me that corporate might act like a dictator. But I
believe it's only a matter of time before Novell "goes away" and morphs
into something else. Best to plan for that now and anticipate how to
keep opensuse alive.

Under the present arrangement, opensuse is like a fetus. If the mother
dies, the baby dies with it. opensuse needs to be born and get its own

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