** Reply Requested by 5/26/2010 (Wednesday) ** Sorry, but I think some guys had misunderstood my points or maybe I was not so clear in my words. Then I'll try again I know that Novell investiment in open source is quite high, I also had worked, and it was not too long ago. Some good friends left Novell and others continue it until today. But my question is not about this, yet.
My question is what happens with all of this investments.
Maybe Novell has changed that investment to another area, or other projects, or even dedicated to the marketing department, perhaps due to some strategic change Novell's forced change of focus for investments, or simply continuing to invest in the same area, hack guys. - Not only DVD's, Stickers/posters. Event kits, ambassador t-shirts, but neither only hacking guys. - What is meant for the above sentence refers to a balance of investments and not just invest in either option, mainly because these investments have force only in conjunction. - I also guessing Novell keep hiring this guys. And this was my reply for
I prefer Novell to employ hackers working on different parts in the open source stack And making it visible they are doing so, Novells reputation here does not reflect their actual investment here I think, though it's not as bad as Canonical in this regard ;-)
Am I wrong on my opinion ? And for the final misunderstood part
them but most part of my friends from SAMBA, AppArmor And Mono, is not working for Novell anymore !!! Someone have the answers for this questions? Why Novell decided to not run anymore with this Hack guys?
Some friends that I know do not work more for Novell but like me still running as contributors, business partners, ... helping not only the tools And proprietary solutions from Novell but also open source, I mean, mostly. So the investment that was for them surely is being allocated to another area or project, my question is, Does anyone know which? "Why Novell Decided not to run anymore with this hack guys?" Why Novell is no longer working with these people - I miss them - ? changed its focus, or the project in which they worked for is no longer a priority or even been completed ? I just don't know the answer. I was not trying to be rude in my words, but I apologize to those who so erroneously interpreted that way. Anyway, thank you for the informations And opinions, it is better that nothing, Also I can say that the fruit of this discussion may arise in some other topic that is important for the project - I think - , for example, Which area development community would like to see Novell investing. I don't know. Do you know ? I remember once I put myself as a responsible to bring their Microsoft And Novell agreements doubts And questions straight to Novell executives And SLED And SLES product managers. They had selected 10 questions as result of a BIG FORUM LIST, in case I'm talking about a site that have about 1.2 to 1.5 million hits per month. Then I committed to bringing the responses once a every week. To assure the reliability of the users on "WHAT'S ABOUT NOVELL" - FOR LONG 10 WEEKS ;-) The result was extremely valuable And reflected mostly fine. We could do something similar by putting a questionnaire to the community where they could not just ask questions but mostly tell us information that I think is important, for example: - Which companies of medium And large sizes use openSUSE in their environments - including companies from Africa, Latin America And Orient. - For companies that use openSUSE, for what reasons they use openSUSE? - If not using the opensuse, what is the reason? - Is there anything that the opensuse project can do to help you to use openSUSE And may recommend the utilization ? - What are their preferred projects And interests in the openSUSE project, SUSE educational suseStudio, obs ... ? - In which open source events they really like to see openSUSE project? I do not know if this questionnaire has already been done some time, If so how to get those results, but I do believe that this information is extremely valuable to the future of the openSUSE project Sorry again For the possible misunderstood, but as I told you before I was not trying to be rude or something like that. Relax Be open Be SUSE Be openSUSE ;-)
Greg Freemyer
25 Maio, 2010 >>> On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 3:43 PM, Gerald Pfeifer wrote: On Mon, 24 May 2010, Carlos Ribeiro wrote: My question is what happens with all of this investments. Not all of them but most part of my friends from SAMBA, AppArmor and Mono, is not working for Novell anymore !!! Someone have the answers for this questions? Why Novell decided to not run anymore with this Hack guys? Not sure what you are after, but I assume you are aware of the fact that Novell is paying hundreds of engineers to work on Linux and Linux-based products? And that's not even counting my team or me where we are hacking in the evenings and weekends mostly. ;-)
Open Source project are what we (as contributors) make them.
openSUSE is what we (as contributors) make it.
Gerald
I don't know if Carlos knows, but it is NOT well known in my opinion. And having the main marketing prepare presentations that team members around the globe can use for small and large events would really help to get the word out IMHO. fyi: A few years ago I attended an all day Intel / RH roadshow. It only had one speaker at a time, but all they did was delve into Linux contributions that one of two had made. In general it focused on stuff released in the last 12 months, but it also had some coming attractions kinds of things. My thought is the core team develop a few presentations like the above every 6 months or so. Then reserve it for big events the first month or so it's available and maybe even only use Novell people to give the initial presentations. But after that make it available for anyone to use at local events. Greg -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help@opensuse.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help@opensuse.org