On Thursday 01 May 2014 11:04:41 Anton Aylward wrote:
On 05/01/2014 10:27 AM, Jos Poortvliet wrote:
On Thursday 01 May 2014 09:07:15 Anton Aylward wrote:
On 05/01/2014 06:41 AM, Jos Poortvliet wrote:
First about the turned-on-by-default: Search is on by default in Windows, Mac OS X, Android, iOS and even GNOME.
That's a weak argument. It amounts to "everybody else is doing it so why shouldn't we?"
"Yes Jimmy, if all your friend jumped off the cliff
you should too".
Go, Lemmmings, Go!
Jos, you seem to have missed the point that people are saying. Its not about who else had it "on by default", Its about the face that previously KDE didn't. Its about consistency of behaviour/operation, which is one of the aspects of good design, a good user interface.
Oh, come on, that's like saying DOS 1.0 is the base, never use anything else. No its not.
The world is moving on, 80+ percent of users uses search. It is an expected feature on a modern system.
First, there's a logical error in your argument. You are asserting this 80% without showing evidence. You are failing to differentiate between it being a desired/demanded feature and something that gets used 'becuase its there'. Some cars have fifth and even sixth gears in a manual change. That doens't mean drivers demand this. My father drives a '5 speed' but only uses four of the gears. Your logic is flawed. It only need one counter case .. And I'll volunteer for that!
No flawed argument here. I cite evidence by pointing out every competing desktop offers this functionality. You can of course claim that their users don't use it but - well, good luck arguing that.
Most of these users wouldn't know how to enable it and we can't exactly advertise every new feature we introduced since, what, KDE 0.1? So we enable it. You're smart enough to disable it, if you need to.
Again, you are being ridiculous. There is plenty about KDE I don't know how to enable/disable by editing the entries under .kde4, but so what? I use systemsettings. That ensures a clean and consistent alternation, which going in 'under the hood' with a text edit won't.
No, you CAN disable it from the GUI. In systemsettings. Let me quote the documentation on userbase.kde.org: Q: How can I disable the semantic desktop? A: File indexing can be disabled by adding the users' home folder to the System Settings -> Desktop Search -> Do not search in these locations list.
And browsing though systemsettings makes one aware of all these features, so in effect you are 'advertising' them.
But the issue is that you've released an incomplete 'product'. There's no support for this in systemsettings as there was for akondai etc. There's no manual page.
So, yes there is. And again, I pointed out WHY it was released. It might have lost a few minor features, but is vastly better and solves real world issues that many users have. Cost benefit ratio: you're just on the wrong end of the stick. You're in the minority. Sorry. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org