AFAIR, going back several releases of KDE at least, how is it that I can do a minimal install, set solver.onlyRequires=true, then zypper in: kcalc kcm_gtk kdebase4-runtime kdebase4-session kdebase4-workspace kdelibs4-core kdm konsole konqueror ksnapshot then startx only to find no window decorations in an otherwise usable KDE? Shouldn't kwin be required by at least one of the *base* kde4 packages? Maybe if kwin was instead named kdebase4-kwin its absence might be noticed prior to starting X (instead of a dep?)? Shouldn't whatever is in kwin be a part of kdebase4-workspace? -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org