Hi there, I've downloaded KDE 3.1 final RPMs for SuSE 8.1 from the kde web site, and after exerincing the same trouble (that sill remains) those from the suse.com ftp site (supplementary-dir). I then had the situation that my user still showed kde 3.0-design, but root was obviously seeing keramik already. I then used the control center and the desktop-settings-wizard (einrichtungsassistent) respectively to mirate my user to keramik. These "troubles" have three facets: 1) -I don't see all the icons, i.e. i see a blank space where log off and lock should be 2) -Almost every start of a program (e.g. konqueror) tells me "kdecore (KLocale): WARNING: found no definition of PluralForm for de" 2) -Far more important: applications keep crashing. This does for example affect (kde 3.1's) konqueror as soon as i start to download a file, or kate as soon as i click on the "open" button. Kopete does not start any more, although i updated it to 0.51 when it started sigserving at start. Can anybody help me and/or does anybody know about those problems? Thanks a lot in advance, Jochen Attached: Kate and Kopete backtrace Kate backtrace: (no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)... (no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)... (no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)... (no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)... (no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)... (no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)... (no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)... (no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)... (no debugging symbols found)...[New Thread 1024 (LWP 7259)] (no debugging symbols found)... (no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)... (no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)... (no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)... (no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)... 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(no debugging symbols found)...0x410b68c9 in wait4 () from /lib/libc.so.6 #0 0x410b68c9 in wait4 () from /lib/libc.so.6 #1 0x41131c90 in __DTOR_END__ () from /lib/libc.so.6 #2 0x40f11a93 in waitpid () from /lib/libpthread.so.0 #3 0x40620b0d in KCrash::defaultCrashHandler(int) () from /opt/kde3/lib/libkdecore.so.4 #4 0x40f0f12b in pthread_sighandler () from /lib/libpthread.so.0 #5 <signal handler called> #6 0x40973396 in QImage::create(int, int, int, int, QImage::Endian) () from /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3 #7 0x40973494 in QImage::create(QSize const&, int, int, QImage::Endian) () from /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3 #8 0x409721d6 in QImage::QImage(QSize const&, int, int, QImage::Endian) () from /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3 #9 0x40977727 in QImage::smoothScale(QSize const&, QImage::ScaleMode) const () from /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3 #10 0x40977563 in QImage::smoothScale(int, int, QImage::ScaleMode) const () from /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3 #11 0x40605078 in KIconLoader::loadIcon(QString const&, KIcon::Group, int, int, QString*, bool) const () from /opt/kde3/lib/libkdecore.so.4 #12 0x406074fd in KIconFactory::createPixmap(QIconSet const&, QIconSet::Size, QIconSet::Mode, QIconSet::State) () from /opt/kde3/lib/libkdecore.so.4 #13 0x409702e6 in QIconSetPrivate::icon(QIconSet const*, QIconSet::Size, QIconSet::Mode, QIconSet::State) () from /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3 #14 0x40970c27 in QIconSet::pixmap(QIconSet::Size, QIconSet::Mode, QIconSet::State) const () from /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3 #15 0x40472957 in KToolBarButton::drawButton(QPainter*) () from /opt/kde3/lib/libkdeui.so.4 #16 0x40a268c6 in QButton::paintEvent(QPaintEvent*) () from /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3 #17 0x409d86f0 in QWidget::event(QEvent*) () from /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3 #18 0x409462e4 in QApplication::internalNotify(QObject*, QEvent*) () from /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3 #19 0x40945e4b in QApplication::notify(QObject*, QEvent*) () from /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3 #20 0x405b2fc9 in KApplication::notify(QObject*, QEvent*) () from /opt/kde3/lib/libkdecore.so.4 #21 0x408ec850 in QETWidget::translatePaintEvent(_XEvent const*) () from /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3 #22 0x408e7f22 in QApplication::x11ProcessEvent(_XEvent*) () from /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3 #23 0x408fceda in QEventLoop::processEvents(unsigned) () from /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3 #24 0x40959fa6 in QEventLoop::enterLoop() () from /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3 #25 0x40946571 in QApplication::enter_loop() () from /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3 #26 0x40b08cb1 in QDialog::exec() () from /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3 #27 0x4174f102 in KateFileDialog::exec() () from /opt/kde3/lib/libkateinterfaces.so #28 0x41743cc9 in KateViewManager::slotDocumentOpen() () from /opt/kde3/lib/libkateinterfaces.so #29 0x4174185d in KateViewManager::qt_invoke(int, QUObject*) () from /opt/kde3/lib/libkateinterfaces.so #30 0x409a4309 in QObject::activate_signal(QConnectionList*, QUObject*) () from /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3 #31 0x409a41a7 in QObject::activate_signal(int) () from /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3 #32 0x403e1bab in KAction::activated() () from /opt/kde3/lib/libkdeui.so.4 #33 0x403d303f in KAction::slotActivated() () from /opt/kde3/lib/libkdeui.so.4 #34 0x403e1da2 in KAction::qt_invoke(int, QUObject*) () from /opt/kde3/lib/libkdeui.so.4 #35 0x409a4280 in QObject::activate_signal(QConnectionList*, QUObject*) () from /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3 #36 0x409a41a7 in QObject::activate_signal(int) () from /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3 #37 0x40c8986e in QButton::clicked() () from /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3 #38 0x40a266e6 in QButton::mouseReleaseEvent(QMouseEvent*) () from /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3 #39 0x409d85bc in QWidget::event(QEvent*) () from /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3 #40 0x409462e4 in QApplication::internalNotify(QObject*, QEvent*) () from /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3 #41 0x409458c3 in QApplication::notify(QObject*, QEvent*) () from /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3 #42 0x405b2fc9 in KApplication::notify(QObject*, QEvent*) () from /opt/kde3/lib/libkdecore.so.4 #43 0x408e9f26 in QETWidget::translateMouseEvent(_XEvent const*) () from /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3 #44 0x408e7a61 in QApplication::x11ProcessEvent(_XEvent*) () from /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3 #45 0x408fceda in QEventLoop::processEvents(unsigned) () from /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3 #46 0x40959fa6 in QEventLoop::enterLoop() () from /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3 #47 0x40959e48 in QEventLoop::exec() () from /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3 #48 0x40946511 in QApplication::exec() () from /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3 #49 0x406f8533 in main () from /opt/kde3/lib/kate.so #50 0x0804cbc5 in strcpy () #51 0x0804d87b in strcpy () #52 0x0804dd3c in strcpy () #53 0x0804eaa0 in strcpy () #54 0x410314a2 in __libc_start_main () from /lib/libc.so.6 Kopete backtrace: (no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)... 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(no debugging symbols found)...0x40e988c9 in wait4 () from /lib/libc.so.6 #0 0x40e988c9 in wait4 () from /lib/libc.so.6 #1 0x40f13c90 in __DTOR_END__ () from /lib/libc.so.6 #2 0x40d0ea93 in waitpid () from /lib/libpthread.so.0 #3 0x4040eb0d in KCrash::defaultCrashHandler(int) () from /opt/kde3/lib/libkdecore.so.4 #4 0x40d0c12b in pthread_sighandler () from /lib/libpthread.so.0 #5 <signal handler called> #6 0x40761396 in QImage::create(int, int, int, int, QImage::Endian) () from /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3 #7 0x40761494 in QImage::create(QSize const&, int, int, QImage::Endian) () from /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3 #8 0x407601d6 in QImage::QImage(QSize const&, int, int, QImage::Endian) () from /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3 #9 0x40765727 in QImage::smoothScale(QSize const&, QImage::ScaleMode) const () from /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3 #10 0x40765563 in QImage::smoothScale(int, int, QImage::ScaleMode) const () from /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3 #11 0x403f3078 in KIconLoader::loadIcon(QString const&, KIcon::Group, int, int, QString*, bool) const () from /opt/kde3/lib/libkdecore.so.4 #12 0x403f578e in BarIcon(QString const&, int, int, KInstance*) () from /opt/kde3/lib/libkdecore.so.4 #13 0x4008edb4 in KopeteSystemTray::KopeteSystemTray(QWidget*, char const*) () from /opt/kde3/lib/libkopete.so.1 #14 0x400842cb in KopeteWindow::initSystray() () from /opt/kde3/lib/libkopete.so.1 #15 0x400836c7 in KopeteWindow::KopeteWindow(QWidget*, char const*) () from /opt/kde3/lib/libkopete.so.1 #16 0x4005de85 in Kopete::initialize() () from /opt/kde3/lib/libkopete.so.1 #17 0x4006216e in Kopete::qt_invoke(int, QUObject*) () from /opt/kde3/lib/libkopete.so.1 #18 0x40792309 in QObject::activate_signal(QConnectionList*, QUObject*) () from /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3 #19 0x40a71242 in QSignal::signal(QVariant const&) () from /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3 #20 0x407ac5c8 in QSignal::activate() () from /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3 #21 0x407b3613 in QSingleShotTimer::event(QEvent*) () from /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3 #22 0x407342e4 in QApplication::internalNotify(QObject*, QEvent*) () from /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3 #23 0x40733e4b in QApplication::notify(QObject*, QEvent*) () from /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3 #24 0x403a0fc9 in KApplication::notify(QObject*, QEvent*) () from /opt/kde3/lib/libkdecore.so.4 #25 0x4070d233 in QEventLoop::activateTimers() () from /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3 #26 0x406eabe4 in QEventLoop::processEvents(unsigned) () from /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3 #27 0x40747fa6 in QEventLoop::enterLoop() () from /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3 #28 0x40747e48 in QEventLoop::exec() () from /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3 #29 0x40734511 in QApplication::exec() () from /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3 #30 0x08049c18 in operator<<(QDataStream&, QStringList const&) () #31 0x40e134a2 in __libc_start_main () from /lib/libc.so.6