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Re: [opensuse-gnome] Evaluating GNOME related features
  • From: Basil Chupin <blchupin@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 07 Dec 2010 17:28:37 +1100
  • Message-id: <4CFDD415.8030604@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
On 07/12/2010 02:52, Paul Cutler wrote:
On Fri, 2010-12-03 at 00:03 +0000, Nelson Marques wrote:
At least between GNOME and openSUSE I would risk to say it would be an
awesome experience (marketing wise) to work together on this.

the community that people who prefer GNOME are switching to Debian
Fedora - how do we capitalize on that?
This I don't understand... could you elaborate? Who is swapping to
Fedora and why? our users? or Ubuntu users... This is very interesting
Paul, please provide more info, because if that is the case (even if
it's a rumor), it's also an opportunity for us and we can benefit from
it directly and indirectly.

I would say, at this time, a small number of Ubuntu users (mostly GNOME
developers) are switching away from Ubuntu to Debian or Fedora as they
disagree with some of Ubuntu's direction, like Unity.

One example is Christian Hergert, developer of PerfKit, who after the
Boston Summit tweeted:!/vwduder/status/1697293258457088

(And has since switched to Fedora).

There is some rumbling in the community of others as well. In my
opinion, these are early adopters and more GNOME-centric developers, but
it may be a preview of some user reaction once Ubuntu 11.04 comes out.
I'd be curious to see the openSUSE marketing team work on a plan to help
migrate Ubuntu users to openSUSE and make the transition easier.


If I may, I would like to add a comment or two.

I am an Ubuntu user and have been for some 8 months (after I switched form openSUSE with KDE after many years [because of KDE if you are interested]).

The recent talk about Ubuntu going Unity did not quite gel with me and so I tried Fedora (Gnome) to see what that was like. For me it was a dud but for others......well it's up to them to decide for themselves.

I then downloaded openSUSE 11.3 DVD and installed the Gnome desktop on a spare HD, again to see what my original favoured OS was like but now with Gnome. (BTW, I am writing this post using Ubuntu 10.10.)

To be very frank, it was like going back to the dark ages when openSUSE with the Gnome desktop/workplaces appeared on my screen.

In Ubuntu, there is "a place for everything and everything is in its place."

In oS, everything is all over the place - and confusing to the user.

It would certainly be most confusing to an Ubuntu user if s/he were to switch to oS at this point in time.

Please let me illustrate what I mean - and you can compare what you see from a user's point of view.

I offer this as suggestion for consideration - you like, you 'keep'; you don't like...... well..... no skin off my nose :-) .

As I stated above, this post is written using Ubuntu.

Below I provide some pics of what my Ubuntu desktop looks like normally - *EXCEPT *that the top and bottom panels are *NOT* displayed as they are auto-hidden; the desktop therefore is "clean", with no icons or widgets or whatever of whatever description or manner or size. The screen shot of this is:

At the top left you will see entries for Applications, Places, and System. I have opened each up and, in sequence, the screen shots for them are:

The above is what an Ubuntu user basically sees when s/he installs Ubuntu. They also see same (or close enough) when they install MINTLinux which is based on Ubuntu.

Compare this to what oS Gnome now has.

If you want to attract Ubuntu and other users then please consider the above.


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