Hello, and good day. I am often installing openSuSE on customer hardware (Laptops, Desktops, Servers). This worked well in the past, but in last time I notice an extreme (not to say scarying) increase of issues with Leap 15.0. On younger hardware (not older than 1-2 years) this Leap 15 often causes troubles with even booting from the USB stick. Even when successfully installing it somehow, it is not sure that ACPI is working, so Leap does the full shutdown but not power-off, and/or that the battery-status is available at all. Even worser, when running the default update in KDE (simply allowing all suggested updates), often ends up with a system where the boot process stops after displaying "Loading initial ramdisk". After re-installing the entire Leap 15.0 and locking kernel updates in Yast, I was able to update all the rest. So the laptop was somehow working, but ACPI did NOT work. This confirms that the newer KERNEL is even worser that the old/initial one and not working properly. Finally a kind guy at #suse helped me to install kernel 4.20 on this problematic machine. Adter that, the system was fully usable. ACPI worked, battery status showed up, ... Yesterday I had another issue: A brand new gaming PC (AMD Ryzen based). This PC was absolutely unable to even boot the USB Installation Stick and/or a Live Stick. --> Again, the reason is this ancient kernel version used. I tried then other distros: Mint and MX 18 perfectly boot and run on this hardware! What I see is: If nothing is done URGENTLY, openSUSE will loose for sure a lot of users. They will try a different distro, and when everything works there, they will never come back. I watch my friend since many years. Because I use openSUSE only, he gives it a try fron time to time. But he always gave up within 1 week and returned to mint & co., where everything works without any hassle. What I want to recommend is: It is important to give users the choice between various kernels at installation time. I can imagine following ways to do that: 1. On the web-site another download in Leap, offering an unofficial/unsupported DVD image should be made available. So the only difference is the kernel, it should be v4.20 from boot-up. Warnings can be added on the web site, explaining that this one is not officially supported, only experimental, for situations where the current one has problems. BUT SOMETHING IS AVAILABLE THAT MIGHT WORK BETTER, 2. Extend the current DVD ISO to allow to choose between current official kernel and this new 4.20 kernel. (I am no developer, I don't know how to do that). I hope this will lead at least into version 1. of my suggestions. Rainer -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org