Dne středa 19. dubna 2017 12:16:16 CEST, Carlos E. R. napsal(a):
On 2017-04-19 10:11, Axel Braun wrote:
Am Mittwoch, 19. April 2017, 09:58:52 CEST schrieb Simon Lees:
On 04/19/2017 03:30 PM, Olaf Hering wrote:
Am Wed, 19 Apr 2017 07:56:47 +0930 schrieb Simon Lees
: If its your first time using Linux ever, without spending 15 minutes googling how do you know which of KDE or Gnome is the right choice? This is where it is hard and where the installer needs to do better (for leap users anyway)>
How would ANY googling help with that decision? Those who decide based on other peoples opinion are served best by a decision made by us. Either poison is fine for them.
This is exactly my point about having no default, if we have no default we are no longer making a decision for them and sure either choice will meet there needs probably equally well (atleast initially) they won't know that so we need to do a better job of providing guidance then the current selection screen does.
But this will not work for less experienced users. They feel uncertain and have no idea about the impact. So giving guidance or recommendation is a must if you want to make it user friendly. The less decisions a (less experienced) user must take, the better.
Exactly!
If you know your way around, you will do anyway that you think is right for you.
Thats why I think we should keep a default.
And how do you know that you are making the right choice for /them/?
Yes, but how can *they decide*? In this point I'd argue to select the DE *probably* fitting needs of most of people.
For instance, the current default (KDE) is terrible for people like me that want things simple. KDE is very complex. Beautiful, yes, but bewildering. I also find the Gnome way too difficult to understand.
I do consider KDE simple in terms of finding way how to use it. GNOME 3 is much simpler in terms of how many things You can influence (e.g. in settings), but I find it terribly non-understandable in terms how to work with it. So what do You mean by "simple"? :-)
Some people like having thousands of things they can configure.
Like me. :-)
Some people hate having thousands of things they can configure.
Why don't they just let the options intact?
How can you choose correctly for them?
If targeting also for newcomers, I believe we need some default... -- Vojtěch Zeisek https://trapa.cz/