Hello Wolfgang! On Jul 15 19:52 Wolfgang Rosenauer wrote (excerpt):
Am 15.07.2015 um 17:33 schrieb Alexander Bergmann:
On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 04:45:01PM +0200, Johannes Meixner wrote:
There is neither any hint that a piece of software is missing here nor what software package is needed so that the browser could deal with *.mp4 files.
The Firefox package contains actually hints (Recommends) how to get it work but it only works when the package manager can find the required packages and as they are *uhm* not shippable easily to everywhere in the world they are in general not in the default openSUSE repos. (I know this is not enough to make it work for the real enduser.)
Directly "inside" the browser sufficient information so that even unexperienced end-users could succeed.
Not easy and I would rather vote for package manager interaction instead. I recently tried to get VLC to play some files and was struggling.
First and foremost: I am a total newbie in this area. Up to now I "just stupidly" used Adobe Flash Player because this is what one gets from openSUSE out of the box (the openSUSE-Tumbleweed-Non-Oss repository is enabled by default). Yesterday I did some Googling for "mp4 opensuse". I did read this and that and something else... My main interest was not to "just enable whatever repository and just install whatever packages via just one-click install". Instead I liked to learn what might be sufficiently usable nowadays without too bad possible legal issues. More by gut-feeling than by real knowledge I decided that I should try VLC and after a bit more Googling for "vlc opensuse" (I used Google's topmost hit ;-) and several rounds of packages installations (one does not get by default what one really needs ;-) I was finally successful so that I can now view *.mp4 files.
From my personal specific experience I assume that this is not a practicable way for unexperienced end-users.
Pesonally I am against any package manager interaction when it is about installing packages where the legal state is not 100% clean for openSUSE. I think openSUSE must not provide any kind of semi-automated installation of legally problematic software. In contrast I think openSUSE should provide only information (but then really explanatory and comprehensive information) when legally problematic software is missing but needed. Only a blind idea (I am a total newbie in this area): Assume the issue is about what to do with *.mp4 files. Is it perhaps possible to have by default a dummy installed instead of the actual piece of software that is needed to actually work with *.mp4 files? That dummy would only show information about the issue and what the user could do. Just as an example assume in Firefox /usr/bin/vlc is set by default to be used for *.mp4 files. If by default a /usr/bin/vlc dummy (same file name) is installed, then Firefox would call it for *.mp4 files so that the /usr/bin/vlc dummy could show information about the issue and what the user could do. If this works even unexperienced end-users could get directly "inside" the browser sufficient information. With "directly inside the browser" I do not mean the browser's binaries - I mean how it is perceived by the user - i.e. how it looks. For the user it does not matter what exact program shows him the needed information. Kind Regards Johannes Meixner -- SUSE LINUX GmbH - GF: Felix Imendoerffer, Jane Smithard, Dilip Upmanyu, Graham Norton - HRB 21284 (AG Nuernberg) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org