On 07/15/2015 05:21 AM, Dimstar / Dominique Leuenberger wrote:
On Tue, 2015-07-14 at 10:34 -0400, Ken Schneider - Factory wrote:
I'm sure this author knows a thing or two:
https://nwrickert2.wordpress.com/2013/08/28/opensuse-tumbleweed-a-rev iew/
That's a good reference explaining where the reason for confusion is coming from... the article is about 'the old Tumbleweed' (which, was nothing more than an addon repository over openSUSE Stable releases).
At that time, DUP was mandatory, as a) Tumbleweed packages had a different vendor b) packages were added to the TW repository 'as was needed' (it always started empty with a release, then was being filled up)
For this to work with zypper, 'dup' was nescessary, so that 'the highest version found in any repository' could be installed, and the vendor change accepted.
the NEW Tumbleweed (the one we currently talk about) no longer is an addon repository over an existing release, but is a full distribution on it's own. As such, dup vs up is so much less important on openSUSE Tumbleweed (the one introduced end of 2014).
Let ggo of old habits, understand the change, and it's all getting easy :)
Would you use zypper up to go from 13.1 to 13.2? NO! Why, because it is a different newer distribution. The same goes for TumbleWeed. When you install the latest published release it is a "distribution upgrade" period. Will packages sometimes change vendor, absolutely if you have more then the standard OSS/NON-OSS repos enabled. But that is to be expected. Sometimes a regression is found and the newest version of package "X" is found to cause problems so it is removed and the last working version is newest available so that package "X" is downgraded. -- Ken Schneider -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org