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My posts also raises 2 questions:
1) if Tumbleweed comes from Factory then why are there so many problems being reported re Tumbleweed when people try it? The Portal states, as you show above, that TW is updated after "......software has been integrated, stabilized and tested. ....." See for example the comments to the announcement that the snapshot 20150126 has just been released. Automated tests, not human based tests. When a new failure is found, someone has to design and implement a new automated test to catch it.
Oh, this is a new one. "Automated tests", eh? But doesn't EVERYTHING go thru "automated tests" before being made available in a repository?
No, Everything has to build cleanly and there are a number of static "rpmlint" tests. For home and devel repositories it is not even guaranteed a new package can be installed, let alone that the executables execute. The OBS process for home / devel projects is simply: - build a RPM - run rpmlint - if no major errors, publish Note the total absence of installing the rpm or invoking any of the executables.
If what you say is true (only "automated tests") then the wording in the Tumbleweed Portal is goobly-dook and would not pass the 'truthfullness' test if it was a commercial on the TV.
The set of automated tests is pretty impressive. Take 15 minutes and review: https://openqa.opensuse.org/tests/ Click on the links, pull-downs, etc. There is a lot of meat on those bones and new meat is being added over time. You may recall 13.1 to 13.2 took a full 12 months. One of the major reasons for the extra 4 months was to allow autoQA/openQA to be truly integrated into the OBS factory release process. So don't blow this off as a minor issue. autoQA / openQA is a major openSUSE feature and it significantly grew in power in the last 12 months. One could easily argue that the new autoQA/openQA model is why the Tumbleweed development meant model was totally transformed. I don't know how it compares to how other distros do testing. fyi: The new "tumbleweed" process is still being implemented. The goal as I understand it is to have all repos named after Tumbleweed, not factory by early May. As the process matures, one assumes more Tumbleweed devel repos will be published, etc. Greg -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org