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Re: [opensuse-factory] Re: Re: RFC: move ifconfig and friends out of default installation
  • From: Per Jessen <per@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2014 13:41:19 +0100
  • Message-id: <lc5k5r$nhg$>
Yamaban wrote:

On Mon, 27 Jan 2014 13:05, Per Jessen <per@...> wrote:

Yamaban wrote:

On Mon, 27 Jan 2014 11:42, Stephan Kulow <coolo@...> wrote:

On 27.01.2014 11:39, Bruno Friedmann wrote:
Would be great. Also if someone take the time to offer a kind of
cheat sheet obsolete command -> new way (at least for those who
don't know)

And make noise about it.

Actually I would go one step further and install scripts instead of
the old commands explaining the new usage - not calling the new
commands, but explaining them. And I wouldn't be surprised if other
distributions already have them ;)

Greetings, Stephan

E.g. make use of 'command-not-found' / 'cnf' in bash to give a
useful output.

Apropos scripts, 'ifconfig' without parameters was a nice and fast
way to see all the interfaces and their config in a reliable and
human readable way. It will be the command I'll miss the most.

For most purposes, "ip addr" does the same, I'm only missing the
packet and error counters.

Those stats can be queried with: "ip -s link show",

Thanks, that saved me some googling :-)

still, it was nice to have a tool that answered most of the relevant
questions about networking on a machine in one call in a readable at a
glance way.

The output from "ip" can be better machine - parsed, but for humans?
Sorry, no gold, not even bronze for "ip", "ifconfig" was / is much
more readable.

I guess it's matter of getting used to it, I switched to "ip addr" long

Per Jessen, Zürich (4.9°C) - dedicated server rental in Switzerland.

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