On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 5:02 AM, C
You can... I can... can a new openSUSE user? Nope. So, instead of making life better for new users and improving openSUSE for new users, we say things like "it's easy just configure your supplicant file" or "why can't you ifup/ifdown" and so on.
I don't say that.
I say "Use yast", which, incidentally, is our super-duper configuration tool. That works.
Ha... have you actually tried setting up WiFi using YaST? And then compared to NM? NM is easy to use to connect to a WiFi node - even for new users. YaST is not.. .in any way shape or form. YaST is an awesome tool, and I use it a lot, but using it as the default tool for setting up WiFi on the move... on laptops.. on tablets... it's a no-go. It does not work... not technically.. end user experience. It requres a high level of technical knowledge that goes well beyond the average user.
But that's not the default. The default for wifi is NM. You're using a false premise in that whole last e-mail, and this whole thread frankly. I've installed enough laptops to notice that the intention is to make NM default on laptops and ifup on desktops. If that is not the case with some installation of yours, it's *a* *bug*. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org