On 12/03/2013 08:10 PM, Jim Henderson wrote:
On Wed, 04 Dec 2013 00:00:18 -0200, Claudio Freire wrote:
With NetworkManager, management of system-wide interfaces was quite broken, at least last time I tried (12.1 perhaps). User-manageable interfaces only start working after you log in, and that can be a problem for a few services (think shared printers, or shared whatever).
Yep, and this is a big problem for systems that don't have a user login but provide services (headless systems should always use ifup, admittedly that's not a primary install base here). I know when my wife's laptop starts freaking out, one thing that can happen is that the GUI doesn't start up completely, and since it hasn't started up, there's no network access for me to connect to to diagnose it.
ifup is simple, stable, and reliable. That's enough reason to keep it as the default.
My experience is that if you install on a system with a single wired interface, the installer selects ifup, but if you also have wireless, NM is the method. I don't have any systems with 2 wired interfaces, thus I don't know what happens. To me, trying to control wireless with ifup is an impossible task. I have 5 APs and about 30 different wireless interfaces that I use for testing. Generating all the necessary ifcfg-wlXXXX files would be the only thing I would ever get done. Larry -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org