At Sat, 09 Feb 2013 10:02:38 +0100, Stephan Kulow wrote:
Am 09.02.2013 00:08, schrieb Claudio Freire:
On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 7:57 PM, Cristian Rodríguez
wrote: "Version freeze" ring any bells?
Of course it rings bells, actually rings a huge gong, that announces a dogma someone decided to put in place in an arbitrary fashion without providing any evidence whatsoever on its effectiveness.
You're trolling me, right?
No, I am not trolling anyone, I am questioning the validity of the unsupported assumption that somehow strictly following to a policy will make things better for users and manageable for developers.
The policy is sound. It doesn't prohibit version upgrades, it only requires good reasons. Fixing a slew of serious bugs would qualify I would imagine.
What's weird is why hasn't anyone provided a list of them? That's the maintainer's task - or anyone else with the ability and willingness to provide such a list in the ML, in fact. The more that list is delayed, the less likely PA 3.0 is of getting into 12.3, not because of capricious policies, but because it is risky to make such a big move without proper testing windows.
To get the testing done, I asked Takashi to get it in the update repos. The API didn't appear to have changed, nor did the soname change, so it should be pretty easy to test and verify if it's causing regressions.
Right, if it were ABI/API incompatible, I wouldn't suggest for such an upgrade. And if PA devs will maintain 2.x branch, we can keep the old version and patching there easily. But, as you know, it doesn't happen there. The bugs of PA are not only this one. There are many other major bugs that have been fixed in 3.0. So, simply keeping 2.1 costs too much. In other words, if anyone wants to volunteer to handle / backport all such bug fixes, I'm fine to keep 2.1 without upgrade. Don't hesitate to step up. Then you'll be marked as the bug owner to handle all PA-related bugs on openSUSE 12.3 and later as a gratis bonus! :) Takashi -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org