Le samedi 18 août 2012, à 13:42 +0800, Will Stephenson a écrit :
On Friday 17 Aug 2012 23:08:47 phani wrote:
at about this time, i'd expect some of the hired staff to go ballistic. that's what happened when i suggested removing apper to someone on the mailing list who had problems, a while ago.
I've been silently going ballistic :). It's buggy but throwing it out without fixing the bugs gives no way for a regular user to install updates without becoming root, as Martin points out. We need to fix the bugs as a community, whether they are in Apper, PackageKit, the zypp backend or libzypp itself, instead of just tossing out the most visible part of the broken stack and reverting to the level of functionality SUSE had in 2001.
+1. Just throwing everything away won't make things better. People are talking about apper here. But are there issues in GNOME and XFCE too? Both have their own tool based on PackageKit, to deal with updates (a gnome-settings-daemon for GNOME and pk-update-icon for XFCE). Knowing which issues are shared would know where to work on fixes for each issue. For the record, PackageKit running and refusing to quit usually happens when it's busy downloading something -- I would guess it does the equivalent of "zypper ref". Vincent -- Les gens heureux ne sont pas pressés. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org