Am 28.04.2012 16:08, schrieb Jos Poortvliet:
Well, if people *who do work* walk away because of too much noise (often perceived to be coming from those who *don't do the work*, true or not) it is *openSUSE* which has a problem.
Jos, i considered walking away from this list. But not because of people who write "I see a strange behaviour of KDE/GNOME/XFCE/udev/$OTHER_SOFTWARE, does anybody else see this, too or is it just me?" Actually I think it is OK to ask those questions instead of putting everything straight into bugzilla. Hell -- I have more than once filed bugs which were then easily (and rightfully) resolved as "user is stupid^W^Whas done the wrong thing" but also some that needed quite some debugging to find out the same thing :-) Also, I am pretty glad if people ask "does anybody else have problems after the latest Kernel/GNOME/$SOFTWARE update?" because it might tell me that I'd better delay that "zypper dup" until tomorrow or even next week. This is not the kind of noise which makes this list unbearable. We all know which kind of noise is the bad one, so in order to not trigger a new wave of it I'll rather not go into detail, we had enough of it during the last months ;-) This is my opinion as both a Factory user and developer/packager. Best regards, -- Stefan Seyfried "Dispatch war rocket Ajax to bring back his body!" -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org