On Thursday 26 April 2012 16:11:36 Steven Hess wrote:
On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 4:06 PM, Thomas Taylor
wrote: On Fri, 27 Apr 2012 00:26:25 +0200
"Carlos E. R."
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On 2012-04-27 00:04, Thomas Taylor wrote:
As one of the infrequent posters to this list I would suggest the already suggested concept that a separate list (only for devs) be started and possibly have a moderator/senior_user sort posts on this list and forward the more serious/valid(?) to the devs list.
That would isolate devs on a marble castle with no contact with what the users see or think of their work.
- -- Cheers / Saludos,
Carlos E. R.
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True, but they could either choose to read this list or have it forwarded to the devs list. I'm not suggesting they should be isolated but the feeling I got from previous posts in this thread is that some of the devs think there is too much noise here.
Tom
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Some Devs don't want any input or contact with the users at all. It's up to the users to moderate the list and suggest people refrain from certain things. The devs can't be allowed to be isolated from all user input.
Actually, I disagree. We've got a number of packagers who work diligently on certain packages but otherwise do not engage much if anything with others. I'm all for *encouraging* them to be more communicative but I strongly oppose *forcing* them. As long as devs abide by our code of conduct/guiding principles we have no right to tell them what to do. We're still a *do-ocracy* and it's the work that counts, not the talking.
If they don't like that its a personal problem not a list problem.
Well, if people *who do work* walk away because of too much noise (often perceived to be coming from those who *don't do the work*, true or not) it is *openSUSE* which has a problem. Let's get this straight: I'd much rather have 10 people maintaining packages who don't communicate than 100 people 'contributing their opinion' on this list. As I've said before - ideas are cheap, opinions are cheap, talk is cheap. Packaging work is not. :D
The last thing opensuse needs is another list True...
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