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"su" versus "su -" = "su -l" = "su --log" was: [opensuse-factory] Trouble starting yast2 from terminal
  • From: "pistazienfresser (see profile)" <pistazienfresser@xxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 12:16:53 +0100
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Am 10/03/11 10:47, schrieb Vincent Untz:
Use "su -", not "su". I'm actively wondering if there's any reason to
keep the "su" default behavior around. It just keeps harming us again
and again.


Hi Vincent, hi Frank, hello all,

I think this should at least be reflected in the documentation.
But there is used the su program without even mentioning the login shell
( --log/ -l/ -) option:

Reference > Chapter 21. Shell Basics > 21.4. Becoming Root > 21.4.1.
Using su

I rate the hole reworking and expand the printed/book like manuals was a
great operation (that should be mentioned in the 'highlights' article of
11.4). But maybe it some background (like: su versus su- ; what are
gnomesu, kdesu, gksu, gksudo, xdg-su -c "[command]", and
explanations could be done in the wiki (at least as an unstable/stage
version before including it/parts of it to the manuals)?

Compare also:
on the su/su - issue
and following
and following

On the basics and concepts of security and following



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