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"su" versus "su -" = "su -l" = "su --log" was: [opensuse-factory] Trouble starting yast2 from terminal
  • From: "pistazienfresser (see profile)" <pistazienfresser@xxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 12:16:53 +0100
  • Message-id: <4D7F4AA5.8070706@gmx.de>
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CC: opensuse-factory@xxxxxxxxxxxx
= http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-factory/2011-03/msg00298.html

Am 10/03/11 10:47, schrieb Vincent Untz:
[...]
Use "su -", not "su". I'm actively wondering if there's any reason to
keep the "su" default behavior around. It just keeps harming us again
and again.
[...]

Vincent

Hi Vincent, hi Frank, hello all,

I think this should at least be reflected in the documentation.
But there is used the su program without even mentioning the login shell
( --log/ -l/ -) option:

Reference > Chapter 21. Shell Basics > 21.4. Becoming Root > 21.4.1.
Using su
http://doc.opensuse.org/products/opensuse/openSUSE/opensuse-reference/cha.new.bash.html#sec.new.bash.root

I rate the hole reworking and expand the printed/book like manuals was a
great operation (that should be mentioned in the 'highlights' article of
11.4). But maybe it some background (like: su versus su- ; what are
gnomesu, kdesu, gksu, gksudo, xdg-su -c "[command]", ....like?) and
explanations could be done in the wiki (at least as an unstable/stage
version before including it/parts of it to the manuals)?

Compare also:
on the su/su - issue
http://forums.opensuse.org/english/get-technical-help-here/pre-release-beta/455279-after-zypper-dup-11-4-most-graphical-yast-modules-do-not-start-via-yast.html#post2302930
and following
http://forums.opensuse.org/english/other-forums/community-fun/opensuse-wiki-discussions/447159-updated-http-en-opensuse-org-sdb-alsa-update-need-review-approval.html#post2302873
and following

On the basics and concepts of security
http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-doc/2011-03/msg00001.html and following


Regards
Martin
(pistazienfresser)



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