Heya I totally agree with Martin here, I was very confused when adding packman didn't "automagically" pull in a proper working xine. The way this works now breaks with I think age old behaviour. Adding the Vendor Change thing adds a new layer of awareness in the users that he is switching from official to unoffical repositores, which is nice, but not done proper that way, because he isn't warned about it or informed in anyway why he new repository "doesn't work". Also installing MPlayer from packman doesn't issue a warning, even though it is a non-official repository, only when changing a package so here the user might not even know about the unofficial state the same way a package change informs him. So I would prefer to keep around the old handling and think up a proper way to deal with this with the next release as everything else is propably too intrusive. Regards, Karsten Am Dienstag, 20. Oktober 2009 15:15:58 schrieb Martin Schlander:
Some may have already noticed this bug/design choice: https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=548089
If you add Packman or any OBS repo to 11.2rc, the updates will be hidden from you by YaST and zypper - because they involve a vendor change. As seen in this screenshot: http://bugzillafiles.novell.org/attachment.cgi?id=323038
This means that to update libxine1, amarok or any other package in the distro to Packman or OBS versions, you have three options:
1) Manually go to the Versions tab in YaST *every* time you want to replace a distro package with a 3rd party one - with *nothing* whatsoever telling you that an upgrade is actually available for your choosing - you must be aware of this yourself.
2) Set 'solver.AllowVenderChange = true' in /etc/zypp/zypp.conf
3) create '/etc/zypp/vendors.d/foobar' with your trusted vendors.
Naturally *no* new user will *ever* figure out any of this without expert help - and neither will most existing openSUSE users.
I think the vast majority of openSUSE users add one or more Packman/OBS repos and want to be able to upgrade packages in the distro without having to fight the package manager to do it.
Personally I think this is a total disaster for openSUSE, and a nightmare for anyone who tries to promote openSUSE and help newbies.
Is it just me?
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