Some may have already noticed this bug/design choice: https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=548089 If you add Packman or any OBS repo to 11.2rc, the updates will be hidden from you by YaST and zypper - because they involve a vendor change. As seen in this screenshot: http://bugzillafiles.novell.org/attachment.cgi?id=323038 This means that to update libxine1, amarok or any other package in the distro to Packman or OBS versions, you have three options: 1) Manually go to the Versions tab in YaST *every* time you want to replace a distro package with a 3rd party one - with *nothing* whatsoever telling you that an upgrade is actually available for your choosing - you must be aware of this yourself. 2) Set 'solver.AllowVenderChange = true' in /etc/zypp/zypp.conf 3) create '/etc/zypp/vendors.d/foobar' with your trusted vendors. Naturally *no* new user will *ever* figure out any of this without expert help - and neither will most existing openSUSE users. I think the vast majority of openSUSE users add one or more Packman/OBS repos and want to be able to upgrade packages in the distro without having to fight the package manager to do it. Personally I think this is a total disaster for openSUSE, and a nightmare for anyone who tries to promote openSUSE and help newbies. Is it just me? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org