On Wednesday 07 October 2009 17:13:43 Ladislav Slezak wrote:
Or you can set the value in the ncurses (text mode) packager using "Configuration" -> "Action after Package Installation" menu item. (Thanks to Bubli!)
Well, it's pretty hard to decide what should be the default. Many people complained when the behavior was changed, on the other hand I received many requests to change it.
At the beginning the package manager was closed immediately after package installation. Some people didn't like it so the famous "Do you want to install more packages?" popup had been introduced. Some people were happy but some people complained that they don't like the change.
So later the popup was removed and many people were happy, but again, I received many complains that the popup is missing. So what to do? How to make everybody happy?
So I have introduced the sysconfig variable to make it configurable so everybody can set the preferred behavior.
Well, that was before this summary page was available, and the option was then between the pop-up display and the current 11.1 mode. I think, more so with the overwhelming consensus in this ongoing ml discussion, that with the summary page now available it should be the default exit mode of the software- manager, and it will satisfy those who hated the earlier pop-up display as well.
But I didn't change the default. Because I think it would be very confusing to have completely different behavior in three consecutive openSUSE releases, moreover the package manager now starts really fast...
I have heard this argument about the package-manager being quite fast on start-up quite a few times since 11.1, and I have never understood it. As a normal user on Gnome (for example) when the software-manager installs stuff and then abruptly disappears, what am I supposed to do if I realise that there was one more small application that I have forgotten yet? I click on main-menu and click on install software. BUT, then I have to enter root password again! Sure, the software-manager now starts up quite fast, but I have to do two clicks (instead of one if the pop-up/summary-page exit methods were used) and fill in the root password. Makes the abrupt exit method look really nagging.
I'm not sure if this can be solved properly, too many people with different needs... IMO the only thing which is missing (or which should be improved) is GUI configuration in Qt and Gtk so users don't have to start the sysconfig editor and the setting would be more visible.
I believe the question of having a better default exit mode would exist even in 11.3, despite (if it is done) making the setting more visible. For 11.2, in the absence of such settings within the package-manager itself, it is all the more important that we have a default exit mode that works better than that in 11.1.
(BTW I personally use "summary" mode, I can decide what to do after package installation and the installation overview is sometimes important for me.)
I use it too, in fact this is one of the changes I do immediately after installing a Milestone release. So thanks a lot for this, but I think to a majority of openSUSE 11.2 users this very nice feature (the summary page) will be lost deep in the jungle of /etc/sysconfig variables where they will rarely venture, unless it is made the default.
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