2008/9/7 peter nikolic
On Sunday 07 September 2008, Stephan Binner wrote:
That's no helpful answer: it doesn't help developers to decide what functiona- lity is really required and if considered essential to priotize implemntation.
Thats very easy to state everything KDE 3.5.x has plus some no minus lines at all how many times does this have to be stated
That is not very helpful. KDE4.x will never have all the features of 3.5.x. It will have many features that 3.5.x does not, and it will miss many features that 3.5.x does have but that few people want. Here's my personal list of blockers to my switching to KDE4.x. (Tested most recently with KDE 4.1.1 from buildservice KDE4:/Factory) in order of increasing importance to me (least important first). I am unlikely to switch to KDE4.x until at least these issues are resolved. If I can help find any more information on any of these without having to dedicate many hours to doing so then I would be happy to. * Plasma stability. It seems to me that if a single plasmoid crashes then it takes all of plasma with it. I can't work out how to get usable backtraces from plasma to file bugs for these. I've tried installing all the -debuginfo packages I could find but still have no symbols found in backtraces, and I can't be bothered to install from source at the moment. * Plasma doesn't play nicely with twinview/xinerama Probably an nvidia-driver bug but my default desktop always looks like this http://bw.uwcs.co.uk/kde411/first_start.png , Plasma doesn't seem to know where the screen boundaries are. Oddly enough kwin4 has no problem with this. Bug#: https://bugzilla.novell.com/413268 * Configurable global keyboard shortcuts don't appear to work yet in 4.1. Bug#: https://bugs.kde.org/160892 https://bugs.kde.org/165441 I start most applications by keyboard shortcut. Not really an essential user for non-power-users, but I won't be switching until it's fixed. * Windows-Cover-Panel missing feature. (Fixed for 4.2). Bug#: Can't find it. [Please let me know] I don't want to waste a large proportion of my screen space displaying something I rarely want to use. If I do want to use the panel I have to move my mouse to it anyway. * Performance with nvidia's proprietary driver. Perhaps not KDE's fault but still prevents me from switching. Even with the latest beta nvidia driver (177.67) and using all the tips at http://techbase.kde.org/User:Lemma/KDE4-NVIDIA Xorg still uses 100% of one of my cores when moving one window over another, resizing a window, scrolling in a window, and I get about 1 frame per second redrawn. (Without compositing effects enabled). As soon as I add a few widgets to plasma I have to wait literally seconds for it to respond to clicks. Even running running a KDE4 app in KDE3 it's sometimes quicker to start the KDE3 version and perform a task than wait for the KDE4 version to redraw a menu. System Specs: Q6600, 8800GTS, 8gb ram Eventually I might be persuaded to replace my graphics card, but not right now, the above hardware is only one year old, I can't afford an upgrade right now. The performance is much better on my 4 year old laptop with intel graphics card and on my desktop using the vesa or nouveau drivers. Unfortunately I like playing 3d games too much to use those. Meanwhile the performance in KDE3 is perfectly acceptable. -- Benjamin Weber --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org