-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Rajko M. wrote:
On Sunday 04 March 2007 21:31, Sid Boyce wrote:
Carlos E. R. wrote: [...]
I agree with you and jdd: I just have never used IRC and I don't like it. I'm biased because till recently I did not have a permanent network connection, so irc was out of the question. Also, what I write I do slowly and thoughtfully, I can't correspond usefully on chat: I go back, read what I have just wrote and correct it.
IRC is more like talking. How slow do you talk ?
I suppose many non English speakers would think similarly.
I am and I totally disagree ;P
Also, I understand others will prefer chat: so let's have more than one method.
More than one method to synchronize efforts ?
As an English speaker, I never have liked IRC either, it along with Mobile texting remind me too much of the old clattering Reed Teletype machines of a bygone age, they were old hat from the day they were invented and worse still, built and shipped.
Obviously you haven't used IRC often either ;)
After all posts about IRC, I decided to make a list of my reasons: - One has to pick up pieces of conversation that belong to him in a mess on the screen which takes attention from the content. This is good suited for chat, but not for serious work.
Wrong. That's extremely efficient at getting serious work done because it's interactive and you don't have to wait a day before getting a reply as with emails. You can get it immediately.
- Once something is gone from the screen it can be found in the logs, which in effect lowers average speed substantially. Old messages are not important in a chat, so this doesn't make a problem, but in bug solving effort it will make problems.
The point is to act on one item at a time. It's about being interactive, immediate, to get the right people into the channel and get the work done.
- Time zones exist and it is another reason against IRC
Yes but that's exactly the reasons for the deficiency of emails for certain use cases. You send a mail, you get a reply 8 hours later while you're sleeping, in the morning you reply, and 2 days later someone sends a much better solution or opinion.
- I have to learn how to use it efficiently, starting with command set, and previous reasons don't help me to see why.
You just have to type the text. No special command set to know unless you're a channel operator.
There was a comment that email will be essentially repeating what is done on bugzilla.
Yes, it will be, but using medium where threading is supported which will give us easy way to see who is replying to what, which thread goes in right direction. Bugzilla messages are not intended for discussions, and reading beyond first few posts becomes quite annoying experience.
But maybe the point about the triage is precisely to get it done
quickly, not spend weeks to discuss it -- exactly as on bugzilla or
using emails.
cheers
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