Hola :) El Viernes, 3 de Noviembre de 2006 13:55, Carlos E. R. escribió:
El 2006-11-03 a las 12:15 +0100, Rafa Grimán escribió:
Hola :)
Pedazo de correo de un tío de Red Hat a la lista de opensuse. OLE, Campeón !!!
Interesante.
Voy a copiar otro a moderadamente a favor. Basicamente dice que será bueno para las empresas con entornos mixtos (y no me contesteis basándoos unicamente en esa frase, hay que leerlo entero para ver sus motivaciones).
Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2006 00:13:41 -0600 From: Peter Van Lone To: <suse-linux-e@suse.com> Subject: Re: [SLE] Microsoft backs Novell's Linux platform
On 11/2/06, John Andersen <t> wrote:
On Thursday 02 November 2006 18:00, Peter Van Lone wrote:
1)virtualization. SUSE will work on Windows, and be supported by Novell. Windows will work on SUSE and will be supported by Novell (this includes applications, not just bare os -- at least that is how I took it).
Have you read the Vista license lately Peter?
well, not lately John. But, I'm not sure that this agreement even covers vista in a VM. It may be that it has more to do with supporting the respective companies SERVERS (and an applications running on same) in each others VM's.
In general, I think that this agreement addresses real needs of real enterprise customers. Despite claims to the contrary I know many "enterprise" environments that are very very "Windows centric and friendly".
These businesses want all systems to play nicely together, with a minimum of fuss. This kind of agreement between Novell and Microsoft is exactly what they want. It may in the end prove hightly beneficial to linux in general. It may not.
¿Seguro? Entonces, ¿por qué no abrir las especificaciones de AD (por ejemplo) para que Linux (en general y no Novell en particular) y MS "play nicely together"?
Is it possible that ... Novell will subsequently be "outplayed" and will not be able to leverage this opportunity. Certainly. But I do think it is an opportunity in this space. As such, I think it *may* end up driving SUSE linux deeper into the data center ... and that is a good thing, IMHO.
Linux ya lleva mucho tiempo en el Data Center y cada vez hay más. ¿Realmente este acuerdo es lo que ayuda a que Linux entre en el DataCenter? Entonces, ¿cómo es que ha entrado y está fuerte en el Data Center si hasta hoy no había ese acuerdo?
None of this, the aggreement or its potential benefits, really applys to individual users or small companies ... there may or may not be any technology from this collaboration that makes it's way to these places. Suse need to get better at driving this segment, too ... but I don't believe that gains in the corporate world = pain for the community.
Le remito a lo que implica la protección de patentes apra una pequeña empresa desarrolladora.
I get a little tired of hearing people react to things, always, as though events are part of a grand battle between good and evil, where the sides are clear and the stakes are high. Please. Things just are not that simple. Linux is not the "all powerful all good god of technology" nor is Microsoft the living incarnation of satan. It's an absurd world view.
Estoy de acuerdo, pero, ¿no sería más "fair play" abrir o documentar las especificaciones del AD (por ejemplo)? ¿No sería más "fair play" seguir los estándares (ODF) y no inventar uno nuevo?
I hope to see linux grow and thrive, and to see microsofts influence diminish proportionally. I came to these desires for a variety of reasons. But Microsoft being "evil" is not really one of them (even while I think that thier monopolistic influence is bad for technology and bad for business).
Pues estás defendiendo su "monopolístic influence" ...
I also prefer small non-corporate business to large multi-national interests. Again, for a variety of reasons. But again ..... on and on.
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