On 31/12/12 20:34, Marcus Moeller wrote:
Hi all.
What do you think? every 1 week, every 2 weeks? monthly? Etc.
Taking current state of affairs, weekly is needed: * to bring thoughts to the same page, * to keep light pressure on fixing tasks for pending 12.3, * to propose new ideas for branding handling in future releases [1], * to establish need for group (team) lead [2].
One point that we can't do much before January 7th is that openSUSE-branding doesn't build. Fix by yecril71pl is ready as SR#146527: https://build.opensuse.org/request/show/146527
[1] Apropos branding in the future there could be some improvements.
Urgent is to have public article in the wiki about packaging artwork, including branding.
But also, for instance, Factory should have own set of packages with clearly Factory branding. That will help in a few ways: * Mark clearly factory development phase. * Help to find missing branding. There is a lot of files to keep an eye on them.
Further that can be expanded to have each phase marked straight on the screen.
[2] Other need *one* *contact*, not "some contact", which usually translates in no contact. This also doesn't preclude it is a boss, just a guy that knows what is going on.
I cannot agree here. As mentioned before this is not a good way to go. Everyone should be aware of what is going on. This awareness could be established through transparent mailinglist communication.
Besides that, I personally prefer mailinglists over IRC meetings, especially in such a small team. I also must admit that I won't have the time to take part in regular meetings, the next year.
Greets Marcus
I would like to chime in here, i think ML 'meetings' are too slow and cumbersome, they do not give realtime discussions that is desperately needed. so please tell me who is doing what, what needs to be done, who can and will do them and how far along are they, you just can't randomly ask 'how you doing' as you will never get a full picture this way. Also if done correctly (minutes taken and shared with the ML and news.opensuse.org) everyone will know one way or another. Another benefit of these meetings is its a forum not one on one, meaning more is known and everyone in that meeting and the ML with the minutes are on the same page, you can't get everyone at once even mailing lists can't because who wants to read back logs constantly? its slow lazy and cumbersome and pushing many away as it is seen as information is deliberately redirected and hidden making the artists look like dicks. These meetings truly work and only really last an hour or so, surly you can spare and hour a week, if you are not convinced on how these work, look at the examples andi posted or sit in on one of the blender developer meetings (#blendercoders on freenode, Sunday, 1600 CET (1500 UTC)) these have been run ever since blender was opensourced and would be lost without them. (incase you missed andi's mail) Here is, for example, how the blender guys do their meetings and emailing. http://lists.blender.org/pipermail/bf-committers/2012-December/038667.html http://www.blendernation.com/2012/12/24/developer-meeting-notes-december-23-... Thank you Andy (anditosan) I would also like to add that if these meetings work and are done properly, (minutes taken and shared with the ML and news.opensuse.org) it could spread to other areas like kde or project as a whole which would help a big deal in opensuse becoming a great unified OS instead of the disconnected 'mess' it is now (including artowork) so please atleast try it and make some effort to keep it going -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-artwork+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-artwork+owner@opensuse.org