On 22.09.2011, at 12:45, Will Stephenson wrote:
On Thursday 22 Sep 2011 09:21:49 Robert Lihm wrote:
On 22.09.2011, at 08:13, Helen South wrote:
I couldn't disagree more strongly.
I think they are absolutely beautiful, stunning work. I loved Nuno's shirt design and I think these are a delightful adaptation of that design. I have made the black one my background right now! The olive green one is lovely too - the variations in color look great on my monitor. The bright one.... *ouch* :P
I like the idea of picking up our shirt design! And I finally like how Richard made it. I would go with the less bright green ... but that's a question of taste :-)
I liked the shirt design, but it's what, 18 months old now? And it is derived from what I call 'vegetative swirls' which are soo passé (check out the 2002 Garland lightshade in the 'Art and Design from the 2000s' collection at MOMA: http://bit.ly/o6nYRs) everywhere except free software graphic design. Jimmac introduced them (in a high quality execution) for 11.2 in 2009, and I pointed this out then.
True! But we are running out time ... so I guess our chances to come up with something really new are bad.
Apropos to much green: I had this simple idea yesterday:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/294274/os12.1/playground/os12.1-Wallpaper-QRCode.pn g
I know, I sad some day ago that green as background colour on a screen is not good ... but in this case I had to brake the rule :-) This Wallpaper is made for being replaced quickly by the user.
We need a variety of strong, unique wallpapers for this release and I think there's room for all kinds of contributions.
I think photos are welcome as well!
What we _need right now_ is a direction, so we can make the installation/etc. artwork ready to fly.
Ack, we need one main design to inform the release. Look at how KDE ships wallpapers: one graphic design for each major release, supplemented by a mixed set of photographic/graphic wallpapers that allow users to quickly find something that represents their personal taste.
+1
That means, the we need something for the Welcome-Screen, Boot-Loader, etc.
Maybe we can flip the colours of Richards draft for this cases?
Or do it very simple like my draft ... I would also be fine with Piotr's natural Design.
Regarding geometry, from a previous discussion, I got the impression that many people in the distribution felt that it was an exciting idea that reflected openSUSE's origins. It doesn't have to be the only artwork, but I think it should definitely be there as an option and many users will enjoy it.
I think the mathematical-wallpaper would be cool as option. As default it's to geeky.
I do like them for their nostalgic value, harking back to the days when i got into SUSE Linux. The Attachmate reboot of corporate SUSE as a 'back to good old SUSE' also gives the SUSE brand a certain amount of momentum in this direction at the moment, so perhaps we should ride that. However what Helen said about just plonking a surf render onto a gradient.
I think the 'pure' output of the modeling program is obviously not what's wanted, but it is an important starting point. Finding interesting shapes to work with. From there, the form can be experiemented with - play with surface decoration, light, background - it's not just used as a big lump of a thing, but turned into a design element. I wish I could do more with the geometry designs, but I suck at digital art and find 3D software rather difficult. (Anyway, studying for my first psychology exam....). If people who are good with 3D could create some variations on the designs, maybe including some 'wire frame' type outputs, also very simple line outputs and different viewpoints, things that 2D artists could play with?
What about inviting some classes of college digital art students to explore the idea?
+1000 Helen. I did not manage this for germany till now. But if you have any connections use them! That would be great!
Yes, please find a way to get some fresh ideas into the artwork mixing pot, but I fear it's too late for getting students involved to produce anything for 12.1. The fedora approach seems to work.
We should try to get them for 12.2. And we should start with 12.2 artwork directly after the release of 12.1!
( I don't like the 'more than a product' slogan much - is that what we are going with at the moment?)
No ... it just fit to the shirt and I like the whole message. Finally openSUSE is more then a product :-)
"More than a product" refers to the openSUSE project, whereas we are discussing the wallpaper and branding for the openSUSE distribution, which is very much the /product/ of the project.
my 2 cents, and sorry that I bring nothing more than my own tastes and experiences to the discussion
Will.
-- Will Stephenson, openSUSE Team SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Jeff Hawn, Jennifer Guild, Felix Imendörffer, HRB 21284 (AG Nürnberg) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-artwork+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-artwork+help@opensuse.org
Rob --- Robert Lihm, Webdesigner - openSUSE Boosters Team SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, D-90409 Nuernberg Tel: +49-911-74053-0 - rlihm@suse.de ____________________________________________________________ SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) ____________________________________________________________ SUSE - a Novell business -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-artwork+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-artwork+help@opensuse.org