Re: [opensuse-artwork] openSUSE-12.1 wallpaper

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Richard Brown

21 Sep 2011 21 Sep '11

20:05

Hi All, I've been working on making a wallpaper based on Nunos barcode artwork we've used on Posters and T-shirts recently My leading idea was to take that idea and mix in some of the ideas bounced around the oSC artwork session, such as using green as a 'highlight' instead of a main colour You can see the fruits of my labour at http://www.sysrich.co.uk/121wallpaper/draft5.png and the svg at http://www.sysrich.co.uk/121wallpaper/draft5.svg It's basically the T-shirt art with a few minor tweaks (spotted one bar had its gradient sideways) and gradient changes to make the green 'work' I quite like how it came out, so took some screenshots so you could see how it works 'in action' with GNOME3 http://www.sysrich.co.uk/121wallpaper/screen1.png http://www.sysrich.co.uk/121wallpaper/screen2.png I also bounced around a few other ideas with the same base, such as a version using white/green similar to the T-shirts at oSC http://www.sysrich.co.uk/121wallpaper/draft3.png http://www.sysrich.co.uk/121wallpaper/draft3.svg and a ridiculously bright green (probably too bright) take based on the colours from a concept rhilm sent my way http://www.sysrich.co.uk/121wallpaper/draft4.png http://www.sysrich.co.uk/121wallpaper/draft4.svg Look forward to hearing what you think

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Marcus Moeller 09/18/11 9:14 AM >>> Dear Jan,

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Looks nice,

only some ideas from me based on the wallpapers.

* the lines more sharper so ist looks lilke glases or reflections * smaller dashes in the right corner area but with a few dashes who goes to the other side * a little bit darker

Only my 2 Cents. :)

You could download the xcf file and try to modify it to your needs. It shouln't be that hard. Greets Marcus

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Jan

Am Dienstag, 6. September 2011, 22:18:44 schrieb Marcus Moeller:

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As there has not been any agreement on a concept for 12.1 here is just a free submission:

http://www.marcusmoeller.ch/share/oS/12_1/concepts/contrail_1600x1200.png

http://www.marcusmoeller.ch/share/oS/12_1/concepts/contrail_1920x1200.png

http://www.marcusmoeller.ch/share/oS/12_1/concepts/contrail.xcf

Thanks to Alexander for his help.

Greets Marcus

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andi robert

21 Sep 21 Sep

21:30

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I am sorry to say but this wallpapers just don't cut it for me. They lack connection to the public. What I mean by this is that it seems barren as a design. It is crowded with small lines that amount to not much. Even if they are intended to represent something, as a design idea it is not working right now. On the good side, the design has potential. I would recommend simplifying the lines (have fewer of them) and use a more vibrant color palette. If green is going to be highlight, let's make it noticeable. Andy On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 2:05 PM, Richard Brown wrote:

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Hi All,

I've been working on making a wallpaper based on Nunos barcode artwork we've used on Posters and T-shirts recently

My leading idea was to take that idea and mix in some of the ideas bounced around the oSC artwork session, such as using green as a 'highlight' instead of a main colour

You can see the fruits of my labour at http://www.sysrich.co.uk/121wallpaper/draft5.png and the svg at http://www.sysrich.co.uk/121wallpaper/draft5.svg

It's basically the T-shirt art with a few minor tweaks (spotted one bar had its gradient sideways) and gradient changes to make the green 'work'

I quite like how it came out, so took some screenshots so you could see how it works 'in action' with GNOME3 http://www.sysrich.co.uk/121wallpaper/screen1.png http://www.sysrich.co.uk/121wallpaper/screen2.png

I also bounced around a few other ideas with the same base, such as a version using white/green similar to the T-shirts at oSC http://www.sysrich.co.uk/121wallpaper/draft3.png http://www.sysrich.co.uk/121wallpaper/draft3.svg

and a ridiculously bright green (probably too bright) take based on the colours from a concept rhilm sent my way http://www.sysrich.co.uk/121wallpaper/draft4.png http://www.sysrich.co.uk/121wallpaper/draft4.svg

Look forward to hearing what you think

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Marcus Moeller 09/18/11 9:14 AM >>> Dear Jan,

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Looks nice,

only some ideas from me based on the wallpapers.

* the lines more sharper so ist looks lilke glases or reflections * smaller dashes in the right corner area but with a few dashes who goes to the other side * a little bit darker

Only my 2 Cents. :)

You could download the xcf file and try to modify it to your needs. It shouln't be that hard.

Greets Marcus

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Jan

Am Dienstag, 6. September 2011, 22:18:44 schrieb Marcus Moeller:

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As there has not been any agreement on a concept for 12.1 here is just a free submission:

http://www.marcusmoeller.ch/share/oS/12_1/concepts/contrail_1600x1200.png

http://www.marcusmoeller.ch/share/oS/12_1/concepts/contrail_1920x1200.png

http://www.marcusmoeller.ch/share/oS/12_1/concepts/contrail.xcf

Thanks to Alexander for his help.

Greets Marcus

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Helen South

22 Sep 22 Sep

06:13

New subject: [opensuse-artwork] openSUSE-12.1 wallpaper

I couldn't disagree more strongly. I think they are absolutely beautiful, stunning work. I loved Nuno's shirt design and I think these are a delightful adaptation of that design. I have made the black one my background right now! The olive green one is lovely too - the variations in color look great on my monitor. The bright one.... *ouch* :P The top-right barcode needs a bit of a 'tweak' - I'm not sure exactly what - it's maybe a little bit too busy on the edge of the screen. Would it work with the geeko shape being black (as though the lines were broken?) Or perhaps a slightly simpler logo. Possibly, try getting rid of the geeko and pushing the bar upwards slightly, so there isn't so much bar code above it, and putting a simple geeko head logo in the bar. The pattern is just that little bit distracting where it is... what if the stripes faded out at the top, so it wasn't so crisp along the top of the screen? I like Piotr's soft organic green design very much too. It's beautiful. My only suggestion would be to maybe add a little bit of soft variation of tone and color to the lines, perhaps. Too much green can be... too much :)) We need a variety of strong, unique wallpapers for this release and I think there's room for all kinds of contributions. Regarding geometry, from a previous discussion, I got the impression that many people in the distribution felt that it was an exciting idea that reflected openSUSE's origins. It doesn't have to be the only artwork, but I think it should definitely be there as an option and many users will enjoy it. I think the 'pure' output of the modeling program is obviously not what's wanted, but it is an important starting point. Finding interesting shapes to work with. From there, the form can be experiemented with - play with surface decoration, light, background - it's not just used as a big lump of a thing, but turned into a design element. I wish I could do more with the geometry designs, but I suck at digital art and find 3D software rather difficult. (Anyway, studying for my first psychology exam....). If people who are good with 3D could create some variations on the designs, maybe including some 'wire frame' type outputs, also very simple line outputs and different viewpoints, things that 2D artists could play with? What about inviting some classes of college digital art students to explore the idea? ( I don't like the 'more than a product' slogan much - is that what we are going with at the moment?) best regards, Helen On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 7:30 AM, andi robert wrote:

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I am sorry to say but this wallpapers just don't cut it for me. They lack connection to the public. What I mean by this is that it seems barren as a design. It is crowded with small lines that amount to not much. Even if they are intended to represent something, as a design idea it is not working right now.

On the good side, the design has potential. I would recommend simplifying the lines (have fewer of them) and use a more vibrant color palette. If green is going to be highlight, let's make it noticeable.

Andy

On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 2:05 PM, Richard Brown wrote:

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Hi All,

I've been working on making a wallpaper based on Nunos barcode artwork we've used on Posters and T-shirts recently

My leading idea was to take that idea and mix in some of the ideas bounced around the oSC artwork session, such as using green as a 'highlight' instead of a main colour

You can see the fruits of my labour at http://www.sysrich.co.uk/121wallpaper/draft5.png and the svg at http://www.sysrich.co.uk/121wallpaper/draft5.svg

It's basically the T-shirt art with a few minor tweaks (spotted one bar had its gradient sideways) and gradient changes to make the green 'work'

I quite like how it came out, so took some screenshots so you could see how it works 'in action' with GNOME3 http://www.sysrich.co.uk/121wallpaper/screen1.png http://www.sysrich.co.uk/121wallpaper/screen2.png

I also bounced around a few other ideas with the same base, such as a version using white/green similar to the T-shirts at oSC http://www.sysrich.co.uk/121wallpaper/draft3.png http://www.sysrich.co.uk/121wallpaper/draft3.svg

and a ridiculously bright green (probably too bright) take based on the colours from a concept rhilm sent my way http://www.sysrich.co.uk/121wallpaper/draft4.png http://www.sysrich.co.uk/121wallpaper/draft4.svg

Look forward to hearing what you think

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Marcus Moeller 09/18/11 9:14 AM >>> Dear Jan,

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Looks nice,

only some ideas from me based on the wallpapers.

* the lines more sharper so ist looks lilke glases or reflections * smaller dashes in the right corner area but with a few dashes who goes to the other side * a little bit darker

Only my 2 Cents. :)

You could download the xcf file and try to modify it to your needs. It shouln't be that hard.

Greets Marcus

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Jan

Am Dienstag, 6. September 2011, 22:18:44 schrieb Marcus Moeller:

...
As there has not been any agreement on a concept for 12.1 here is just a free submission:

http://www.marcusmoeller.ch/share/oS/12_1/concepts/contrail_1600x1200.png

http://www.marcusmoeller.ch/share/oS/12_1/concepts/contrail_1920x1200.png

http://www.marcusmoeller.ch/share/oS/12_1/concepts/contrail.xcf

Thanks to Alexander for his help.

Greets Marcus

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Robert Lihm

07:21

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Hello all! On 22.09.2011, at 08:13, Helen South wrote:

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I couldn't disagree more strongly.

I think they are absolutely beautiful, stunning work. I loved Nuno's shirt design and I think these are a delightful adaptation of that design. I have made the black one my background right now! The olive green one is lovely too - the variations in color look great on my monitor. The bright one.... *ouch* :P

I like the idea of picking up our shirt design! And I finally like how Richard made it. I would go with the less bright green ... but that's a question of taste :-)

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The top-right barcode needs a bit of a 'tweak' - I'm not sure exactly what - it's maybe a little bit too busy on the edge of the screen. Would it work with the geeko shape being black (as though the lines were broken?)

@Richard: Here you can download the vector graphic which got finally printed on the shirts. The Geeko is already spared out. http://dl.dropbox.com/u/294274/os12.1/workfiles/Settingcopy-3-Finalformat.sv...

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Or perhaps a slightly simpler logo. Possibly, try getting rid of the geeko and pushing the bar upwards slightly, so there isn't so much bar code above it, and putting a simple geeko head logo in the bar. The pattern is just that little bit distracting where it is... what if the stripes faded out at the top, so it wasn't so crisp along the top of the screen?

I like Piotr's soft organic green design very much too. It's beautiful. My only suggestion would be to maybe add a little bit of soft variation of tone and color to the lines, perhaps. Too much green can be... too much :))

I liked Piotr's design as well. But something in me is saying that the background noise is not perfect ... maybe it remind me to much of JPEG Artefacts ... well ... not shure :-/ Apropos to much green: I had this simple idea yesterday: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/294274/os12.1/playground/os12.1-Wallpaper-QRCode.png I know, I sad some day ago that green as background colour on a screen is not good ... but in this case I had to brake the rule :-) This Wallpaper is made for being replaced quickly by the user.

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We need a variety of strong, unique wallpapers for this release and I think there's room for all kinds of contributions.

I think photos are welcome as well! What we _need right now_ is a direction, so we can make the installation/etc. artwork ready to fly. That means, the we need something for the Welcome-Screen, Boot-Loader, etc. Maybe we can flip the colours of Richards draft for this cases? Or do it very simple like my draft ... I would also be fine with Piotr's natural Design.

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Regarding geometry, from a previous discussion, I got the impression that many people in the distribution felt that it was an exciting idea that reflected openSUSE's origins. It doesn't have to be the only artwork, but I think it should definitely be there as an option and many users will enjoy it.

I think the mathematical-wallpaper would be cool as option. As default it's to geeky.

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I think the 'pure' output of the modeling program is obviously not what's wanted, but it is an important starting point. Finding interesting shapes to work with. From there, the form can be experiemented with - play with surface decoration, light, background - it's not just used as a big lump of a thing, but turned into a design element. I wish I could do more with the geometry designs, but I suck at digital art and find 3D software rather difficult. (Anyway, studying for my first psychology exam....). If people who are good with 3D could create some variations on the designs, maybe including some 'wire frame' type outputs, also very simple line outputs and different viewpoints, things that 2D artists could play with?

What about inviting some classes of college digital art students to explore the idea?

+1000 Helen. I did not manage this for germany till now. But if you have any connections use them! That would be great!

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( I don't like the 'more than a product' slogan much - is that what we are going with at the moment?)

No ... it just fit to the shirt and I like the whole message. Finally openSUSE is more then a product :-)

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best regards,

Helen

On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 7:30 AM, andi robert wrote:

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I am sorry to say but this wallpapers just don't cut it for me. They lack connection to the public. What I mean by this is that it seems barren as a design. It is crowded with small lines that amount to not much. Even if they are intended to represent something, as a design idea it is not working right now.

On the good side, the design has potential. I would recommend simplifying the lines (have fewer of them) and use a more vibrant color palette. If green is going to be highlight, let's make it noticeable.

Andy

On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 2:05 PM, Richard Brown wrote:

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Hi All,

I've been working on making a wallpaper based on Nunos barcode artwork we've used on Posters and T-shirts recently

My leading idea was to take that idea and mix in some of the ideas bounced around the oSC artwork session, such as using green as a 'highlight' instead of a main colour

You can see the fruits of my labour at http://www.sysrich.co.uk/121wallpaper/draft5.png and the svg at http://www.sysrich.co.uk/121wallpaper/draft5.svg

It's basically the T-shirt art with a few minor tweaks (spotted one bar had its gradient sideways) and gradient changes to make the green 'work'

I quite like how it came out, so took some screenshots so you could see how it works 'in action' with GNOME3 http://www.sysrich.co.uk/121wallpaper/screen1.png http://www.sysrich.co.uk/121wallpaper/screen2.png

I also bounced around a few other ideas with the same base, such as a version using white/green similar to the T-shirts at oSC http://www.sysrich.co.uk/121wallpaper/draft3.png http://www.sysrich.co.uk/121wallpaper/draft3.svg

and a ridiculously bright green (probably too bright) take based on the colours from a concept rhilm sent my way http://www.sysrich.co.uk/121wallpaper/draft4.png http://www.sysrich.co.uk/121wallpaper/draft4.svg

Look forward to hearing what you think

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Marcus Moeller 09/18/11 9:14 AM >>> Dear Jan,

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Looks nice,

only some ideas from me based on the wallpapers.

* the lines more sharper so ist looks lilke glases or reflections * smaller dashes in the right corner area but with a few dashes who goes to the other side * a little bit darker

Only my 2 Cents. :)

You could download the xcf file and try to modify it to your needs. It shouln't be that hard.

Greets Marcus

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Jan

Am Dienstag, 6. September 2011, 22:18:44 schrieb Marcus Moeller:

...
As there has not been any agreement on a concept for 12.1 here is just a free submission:

http://www.marcusmoeller.ch/share/oS/12_1/concepts/contrail_1600x1200.png

http://www.marcusmoeller.ch/share/oS/12_1/concepts/contrail_1920x1200.png

http://www.marcusmoeller.ch/share/oS/12_1/concepts/contrail.xcf

Thanks to Alexander for his help.

Greets Marcus

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Robert Lihm

09:29

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Hey again! I took the wallpapers from Richard and Piotr and put them into the yast ui ... just to get an impression. http://dl.dropbox.com/u/294274/os12.1/sneakpeek/yast-piotr.png http://dl.dropbox.com/u/294274/os12.1/sneakpeek/yast-Ilmehtar.png What is you opinion? I personally like both :-) Cheers! Rob --- Robert Lihm, Webdesigner - openSUSE Boosters Team SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, D-90409 Nuernberg Tel: +49-911-74053-0 - rlihm@suse.de ____________________________________________________________ SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) ____________________________________________________________ SUSE - a Novell business -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-artwork+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-artwork+help@opensuse.org

Jan Krings

09:48

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I think the first looks better. In my case, I dont like dark backgrounds. :) Am Donnerstag, 22. September 2011, 11:29:40 schrieb Robert Lihm:

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Hey again!

I took the wallpapers from Richard and Piotr and put them into the yast ui ... just to get an impression.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/294274/os12.1/sneakpeek/yast-piotr.png http://dl.dropbox.com/u/294274/os12.1/sneakpeek/yast-Ilmehtar.png

What is you opinion? I personally like both :-)

Cheers!

Rob ---

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Helen South

10:18

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Oh I agree, I as soon as I opened it I thought, wow, that looks stunning - the organic curling shapes are really elegant. I still totally love the black background, but as-is doesn't quite work so well in Yast. I guess the only reservation I have with the green one (Piotr's) is maybe it doesn't look modern/edgy enough... it's quite a 'classic' look... but I think that's ok. Be careful with readability of the text, maybe need to make both the greens a touch darker. I love the QR code, very funky.... tho that green looks vile on my monitor... might need calibrating (must make an Oyranos disk) what about in one of those dusty 1970s orange tones? (as an option)... cheers Helen On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 7:48 PM, Jan Krings wrote:

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I think the first looks better. In my case, I dont like dark backgrounds. :)

Am Donnerstag, 22. September 2011, 11:29:40 schrieb Robert Lihm:

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Hey again!

I took the wallpapers from Richard and Piotr and put them into the yast ui ... just to get an impression.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/294274/os12.1/sneakpeek/yast-piotr.png http://dl.dropbox.com/u/294274/os12.1/sneakpeek/yast-Ilmehtar.png

What is you opinion? I personally like both :-)

Cheers!

Rob ---

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Will Stephenson

10:50

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On Thursday 22 Sep 2011 12:18:31 Helen South wrote:

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I love the QR code, very funky.... tho that green looks vile on my monitor... might need calibrating (must make an Oyranos disk)

As Nuno pointed out to me, green is the colour worst represented by monitors, so by choosing a shade of green we are committing ourselves to fail on 50% of our users' hardware. But it's a barcode, not a QR code. How about something inspired by QR codes? They are sort-of now. Have you noticed that brands are using the built in redundancy in QR codes to make readable QRs that contain non-pixel elements?

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what about in one of those dusty 1970s orange tones? (as an option)...

Yes, break the greenopoly! With all the grass green in the SUSE offices, on the walls, on t-shirts, I think I may start suffering some kind of retinal burnout soon. Will -- Will Stephenson, openSUSE Team SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Jeff Hawn, Jennifer Guild, Felix Imendörffer, HRB 21284 (AG Nürnberg) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-artwork+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-artwork+help@opensuse.org

Helen South

11:07

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But it's a barcode, not a QR code. How about something inspired by QR codes?

This one is a QR Code http://dl.dropbox.com/u/294274/os12.1/playground/os12.1-Wallpaper-QRCode.png

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what about in one of those dusty 1970s orange tones? (as an option)...

Yes, break the greenopoly! With all the grass green in the SUSE offices, on the walls, on t-shirts, I think I may start suffering some kind of retinal burnout soon.

Will

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Will Stephenson

11:15

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On Thursday 22 Sep 2011 13:07:23 Helen South wrote:

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But it's a barcode, not a QR code. How about something inspired by QR codes?

This one is a QR Code http://dl.dropbox.com/u/294274/os12.1/playground/os12.1-Wallpaper-QRCode.pn g

I overlooked that one, sorry. About 'designed' QR codes: http://mashable.com/2011/04/18/qr-code-design-tips Will

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what about in one of those dusty 1970s orange tones? (as an option)...

Yes, break the greenopoly! With all the grass green in the SUSE offices, on the walls, on t-shirts, I think I may start suffering some kind of retinal burnout soon.

Will

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Bernhard M. Wiedemann

17:23

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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Am 22.09.2011 13:15, schrieb Will Stephenson:

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About 'designed' QR codes:

http://mashable.com/2011/04/18/qr-code-design-tips

thanks for the link. With that I made this camouflage geeko-QR design where the pattern on the chamaeleon actually carries part of the information: http://www.zq1.de/~bernhard/linux/opensuse/qr/opensuse.org-qrcode-design-iww... created based on a downloaded 440x440 dark gray png overlaid in inkscape with a semitransparent geeko of 160 alpha exported as png and loaded into gimp retouched some small areas, did an overlay layer to keep the eye and applied artistic/oil-painting filter with radius 12 to get more organic shapes. Of course, creating a base QR code with more redundancy would allow for even more artistic freedom - but doing more with less is an art in itself :-) I also thought, that one could use a wildcard redirect to vary parts of the URL to generate nice patterns in the original QR code - like http://abc123.r.opensuse.org/ . allowing for 36^6 = 2176782336 different patterns Ciao Bernhard M. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.18 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk57byUACgkQSTYLOx37oWScrwCeNKrHCzME8+thzGdD8wi3KO5p nn4AnR6m/GEw0PzwOFVWNNIPIGlPg7KN =ZoXA -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-artwork+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-artwork+help@opensuse.org

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11:30

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On 22.09.2011, at 12:50, Will Stephenson wrote:

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On Thursday 22 Sep 2011 12:18:31 Helen South wrote:

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I love the QR code, very funky.... tho that green looks vile on my monitor... might need calibrating (must make an Oyranos disk)

As Nuno pointed out to me, green is the colour worst represented by monitors, so by choosing a shade of green we are committing ourselves to fail on 50% of our users' hardware.

Green is terrible for screen design. My geengreengreen wallpaper was just a kind of inspiration-booster ... looks like it worked out ;-)

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But it's a barcode, not a QR code. How about something inspired by QR codes? They are sort-of now. Have you noticed that brands are using the built in redundancy in QR codes to make readable QRs that contain non-pixel elements?

Nice idea. Any idea how to make such QR Codes? Till now I had no time and reason to play with that.

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what about in one of those dusty 1970s orange tones? (as an option)...

Yes, break the greenopoly! With all the grass green in the SUSE offices, on the walls, on t-shirts, I think I may start suffering some kind of retinal burnout soon.

Even my eyes are green %-) Seriously ... something else then green would be nice! Rob

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18:34

New subject: [opensuse-artwork] openSUSE-12.1 wallpaper

El Jueves, 22 de Septiembre de 2011 13:30:54 Robert Lihm escribió: [...]

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Seriously ... something else then green would be nice!

What about blue? I have seen blue artwork on past SUSE releases. -- Javier Llorente

Nelson Marques

16:29

New subject: [opensuse-artwork] openSUSE-12.1 wallpaper

2011/9/22 Will Stephenson :

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On Thursday 22 Sep 2011 12:18:31 Helen South wrote:

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I love the QR code, very funky.... tho that green looks vile on my monitor... might need calibrating (must make an Oyranos disk)

As Nuno pointed out to me, green is the colour worst represented by monitors, so by choosing a shade of green we are committing ourselves to fail on 50% of our users' hardware.

How many of us do calibrate our monitor with a pantone? Besides, the important is that the person who does the work has their own monitor calibrated. Since this is just a wallpaper and not a branding image or something to be used on printing, I don't see much of a trouble. You can not hold ourselves responsible for people not having their monitors calibrated, do we ?

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But it's a barcode, not a QR code. How about something inspired by QR codes? They are sort-of now. Have you noticed that brands are using the built in redundancy in QR codes to make readable QRs that contain non-pixel elements?

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what about in one of those dusty 1970s orange tones? (as an option)...

Yes, break the greenopoly! With all the grass green in the SUSE offices, on the walls, on t-shirts, I think I may start suffering some kind of retinal burnout soon.

Will

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Will Stephenson

20:18

New subject: [opensuse-artwork] openSUSE-12.1 wallpaper

On Thursday 22 Sep 2011 18:29:07 Nelson Marques wrote:

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2011/9/22 Will Stephenson :

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On Thursday 22 Sep 2011 12:18:31 Helen South wrote:

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I love the QR code, very funky.... tho that green looks vile on my monitor... might need calibrating (must make an Oyranos disk)

As Nuno pointed out to me, green is the colour worst represented by monitors, so by choosing a shade of green we are committing ourselves to fail on 50% of our users' hardware.

How many of us do calibrate our monitor with a pantone? Besides, the important is that the person who does the work has their own monitor calibrated. Since this is just a wallpaper and not a branding image or something to be used on printing, I don't see much of a trouble.

You can not hold ourselves responsible for people not having their monitors calibrated, do we ?

Calibration can't really help here. To clarify what I said: Artwork should be attractive and be agreeable to most of our users. Since green tones are not reproduced accurately by many monitors, there is a higher chance that green artwork will look dull (the user's monitor's narrow range of green tones compresses the tonal range of the original artwork), or sludgy (the user's monitor shifts the designer's choice of green tones towards something ugly), so the artwork as presented to users who don't have high-fidelity monitors (especially netbooks) will not be attractive. Will -- Will Stephenson, openSUSE Team SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Jeff Hawn, Jennifer Guild, Felix Imendörffer, HRB 21284 (AG Nürnberg) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-artwork+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-artwork+help@opensuse.org

Robert Lihm

11:20

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On 22.09.2011, at 12:18, Helen South wrote:

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Oh I agree, I as soon as I opened it I thought, wow, that looks stunning - the organic curling shapes are really elegant. I still totally love the black background, but as-is doesn't quite work so well in Yast.

hm ... yes, the contrast is a bit hard ... on the other hand I like it somehow ... maybe we should replace the back with green and the shapes could be whitish?

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I guess the only reservation I have with the green one (Piotr's) is maybe it doesn't look modern/edgy enough... it's quite a 'classic' look... but I think that's ok.

Yep, agree on that.

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Be careful with readability of the text, maybe need to make both the greens a touch darker.

The current look is the 11.4 style ... the text colour needs definitely to be adjusted.

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I love the QR code, very funky.... tho that green looks vile on my monitor... might need calibrating (must make an Oyranos disk)

Somehow the code is broken ... it should link to http://www.opensuse.org. But I think it's funny for a default wallpaper.

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what about in one of those dusty 1970s orange tones? (as an option)...

I love the 70is style! Somebody wants to give it a try? Rob

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cheers

Helen

On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 7:48 PM, Jan Krings wrote:

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I think the first looks better. In my case, I dont like dark backgrounds. :)

Am Donnerstag, 22. September 2011, 11:29:40 schrieb Robert Lihm:

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Hey again!

I took the wallpapers from Richard and Piotr and put them into the yast ui ... just to get an impression.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/294274/os12.1/sneakpeek/yast-piotr.png http://dl.dropbox.com/u/294274/os12.1/sneakpeek/yast-Ilmehtar.png

What is you opinion? I personally like both :-)

Cheers!

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12:03

New subject: [opensuse-artwork] openSUSE-12.1 wallpaper

Le 22/09/2011 11:29, Robert Lihm a écrit :

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Hey again!

I took the wallpapers from Richard and Piotr and put them into the yast ui ... just to get an impression.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/294274/os12.1/sneakpeek/yast-piotr.png http://dl.dropbox.com/u/294274/os12.1/sneakpeek/yast-Ilmehtar.png

What is you opinion? I personally like both :-)

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Will Stephenson

10:45

New subject: [opensuse-artwork] openSUSE-12.1 wallpaper

On Thursday 22 Sep 2011 09:21:49 Robert Lihm wrote:

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On 22.09.2011, at 08:13, Helen South wrote:

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I couldn't disagree more strongly.

I think they are absolutely beautiful, stunning work. I loved Nuno's shirt design and I think these are a delightful adaptation of that design. I have made the black one my background right now! The olive green one is lovely too - the variations in color look great on my monitor. The bright one.... *ouch* :P

I like the idea of picking up our shirt design! And I finally like how Richard made it. I would go with the less bright green ... but that's a question of taste :-)

I liked the shirt design, but it's what, 18 months old now? And it is derived from what I call 'vegetative swirls' which are soo passé (check out the 2002 Garland lightshade in the 'Art and Design from the 2000s' collection at MOMA: http://bit.ly/o6nYRs) everywhere except free software graphic design. Jimmac introduced them (in a high quality execution) for 11.2 in 2009, and I pointed this out then.

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The top-right barcode needs a bit of a 'tweak' - I'm not sure exactly what - it's maybe a little bit too busy on the edge of the screen. Would it work with the geeko shape being black (as though the lines were broken?)

@Richard: Here you can download the vector graphic which got finally printed on the shirts. The Geeko is already spared out.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/294274/os12.1/workfiles/Settingcopy-3-Finalformat.s vg

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Or perhaps a slightly simpler logo. Possibly, try getting rid of the geeko and pushing the bar upwards slightly, so there isn't so much bar code above it, and putting a simple geeko head logo in the bar. The pattern is just that little bit distracting where it is... what if the stripes faded out at the top, so it wasn't so crisp along the top of the screen?

I like Piotr's soft organic green design very much too. It's beautiful. My only suggestion would be to maybe add a little bit of soft variation of tone and color to the lines, perhaps. Too much green can be... too much :))

I liked Piotr's design as well. But something in me is saying that the background noise is not perfect ... maybe it remind me to much of JPEG Artefacts ... well ... not shure :-/

I have the same objection to Piotr's design, as it's a more direct derivative of 11.2. We need progress!

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Apropos to much green: I had this simple idea yesterday:

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/294274/os12.1/playground/os12.1-Wallpaper-QRCode.pn g

I know, I sad some day ago that green as background colour on a screen is not good ... but in this case I had to brake the rule :-) This Wallpaper is made for being replaced quickly by the user.

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We need a variety of strong, unique wallpapers for this release and I think there's room for all kinds of contributions.

I think photos are welcome as well!

What we _need right now_ is a direction, so we can make the installation/etc. artwork ready to fly.

Ack, we need one main design to inform the release. Look at how KDE ships wallpapers: one graphic design for each major release, supplemented by a mixed set of photographic/graphic wallpapers that allow users to quickly find something that represents their personal taste.

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That means, the we need something for the Welcome-Screen, Boot-Loader, etc.

Maybe we can flip the colours of Richards draft for this cases?

Or do it very simple like my draft ... I would also be fine with Piotr's natural Design.

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Regarding geometry, from a previous discussion, I got the impression that many people in the distribution felt that it was an exciting idea that reflected openSUSE's origins. It doesn't have to be the only artwork, but I think it should definitely be there as an option and many users will enjoy it.

I think the mathematical-wallpaper would be cool as option. As default it's to geeky.

I do like them for their nostalgic value, harking back to the days when i got into SUSE Linux. The Attachmate reboot of corporate SUSE as a 'back to good old SUSE' also gives the SUSE brand a certain amount of momentum in this direction at the moment, so perhaps we should ride that. However what Helen said about just plonking a surf render onto a gradient.

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I think the 'pure' output of the modeling program is obviously not what's wanted, but it is an important starting point. Finding interesting shapes to work with. From there, the form can be experiemented with - play with surface decoration, light, background - it's not just used as a big lump of a thing, but turned into a design element. I wish I could do more with the geometry designs, but I suck at digital art and find 3D software rather difficult. (Anyway, studying for my first psychology exam....). If people who are good with 3D could create some variations on the designs, maybe including some 'wire frame' type outputs, also very simple line outputs and different viewpoints, things that 2D artists could play with?

What about inviting some classes of college digital art students to explore the idea?

+1000 Helen. I did not manage this for germany till now. But if you have any connections use them! That would be great!

Yes, please find a way to get some fresh ideas into the artwork mixing pot, but I fear it's too late for getting students involved to produce anything for 12.1. The fedora approach seems to work.

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( I don't like the 'more than a product' slogan much - is that what we are going with at the moment?)

No ... it just fit to the shirt and I like the whole message. Finally openSUSE is more then a product :-)

"More than a product" refers to the openSUSE project, whereas we are discussing the wallpaper and branding for the openSUSE distribution, which is very much the /product/ of the project. my 2 cents, and sorry that I bring nothing more than my own tastes and experiences to the discussion Will.

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best regards,

Helen

On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 7:30 AM, andi robert wrote:

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I am sorry to say but this wallpapers just don't cut it for me. They lack connection to the public. What I mean by this is that it seems barren as a design. It is crowded with small lines that amount to not much. Even if they are intended to represent something, as a design idea it is not working right now.

On the good side, the design has potential. I would recommend simplifying the lines (have fewer of them) and use a more vibrant color palette. If green is going to be highlight, let's make it noticeable.

Andy

On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 2:05 PM, Richard Brown wrote:

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Hi All,

I've been working on making a wallpaper based on Nunos barcode artwork we've used on Posters and T-shirts recently

My leading idea was to take that idea and mix in some of the ideas bounced around the oSC artwork session, such as using green as a 'highlight' instead of a main colour

You can see the fruits of my labour at http://www.sysrich.co.uk/121wallpaper/draft5.png and the svg at http://www.sysrich.co.uk/121wallpaper/draft5.svg

It's basically the T-shirt art with a few minor tweaks (spotted one bar had its gradient sideways) and gradient changes to make the green 'work'

I quite like how it came out, so took some screenshots so you could see how it works 'in action' with GNOME3 http://www.sysrich.co.uk/121wallpaper/screen1.png http://www.sysrich.co.uk/121wallpaper/screen2.png

I also bounced around a few other ideas with the same base, such as a version using white/green similar to the T-shirts at oSC http://www.sysrich.co.uk/121wallpaper/draft3.png http://www.sysrich.co.uk/121wallpaper/draft3.svg

and a ridiculously bright green (probably too bright) take based on the colours from a concept rhilm sent my way http://www.sysrich.co.uk/121wallpaper/draft4.png http://www.sysrich.co.uk/121wallpaper/draft4.svg

Look forward to hearing what you think

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> Marcus Moeller 09/18/11 9:14 AM >>>

Dear Jan,

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Looks nice,

only some ideas from me based on the wallpapers.

* the lines more sharper so ist looks lilke glases or reflections * smaller dashes in the right corner area but with a few dashes who goes to the other side * a little bit darker

Only my 2 Cents. :)

You could download the xcf file and try to modify it to your needs. It shouln't be that hard.

Greets Marcus

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Jan

Am Dienstag, 6. September 2011, 22:18:44 schrieb Marcus Moeller:

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As there has not been any agreement on a concept for 12.1 here is just a free submission:

http://www.marcusmoeller.ch/share/oS/12_1/concepts/contrail_1600x1200 .png

http://www.marcusmoeller.ch/share/oS/12_1/concepts/contrail_1920x1200 .png

http://www.marcusmoeller.ch/share/oS/12_1/concepts/contrail.xcf

Thanks to Alexander for his help.

Greets Marcus

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10:49

New subject: [opensuse-artwork] openSUSE-12.1 wallpaper

Am Donnerstag, 22. September 2011 schrieb Will Stephenson:

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On Thursday 22 Sep 2011 09:21:49 Robert Lihm wrote:

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On 22.09.2011, at 08:13, Helen South wrote:

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I couldn't disagree more strongly.

I think they are absolutely beautiful, stunning work. I loved Nuno's shirt design and I think these are a delightful adaptation of that design. I have made the black one my background right now! The olive green one is lovely too - the variations in color look great on my monitor. The bright one.... *ouch* :P

I like the idea of picking up our shirt design! And I finally like how Richard made it. I would go with the less bright green ... but that's a question of taste :-)

I liked the shirt design, but it's what, 18 months old now? And it is derived from what I call 'vegetative swirls' which are soo passé (check out the 2002 Garland lightshade in the 'Art and Design from the 2000s' collection at MOMA: http://bit.ly/o6nYRs) everywhere except free software graphic design. Jimmac introduced them (in a high quality execution) for 11.2 in 2009, and I pointed this out then.

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11:21

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I just wanted to add, that months ago I tried to bring up some discussion about vision and theme and was told 'don't talk about it, just do it'. So the conversation more or less ended, and I didn't really follow any further discussion due to other commitments in the meantime. Now someone has "just done it" and put time and effort into create nice artwork, and NOW you all want to add criticisms and say you don't like this or that. This is quite absurd. There needs to be a clear artwork vision discussed well before release, outlines put forward of the look and theme that is wanted for the distribution/release, a list of what specific artworks are required. THAT is when everyone can air their views. At this point of the process it should be minor tweaks and ajustments. But THAT would have required a DISCUSSION not 'just do it'. There is a difference between bikeshedding and planning. The project needs to consult with the creative members of the team and appoint an art team leader who has a clue about what is required for the components of the release, and then TRUST THEIR JUDGEMENT to guide the artwork production. This needs to happen months before the release, not weeks. -- IRC: helen_au helen.south@opensuse.org helensouth.com On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 8:49 PM, Stephan Kulow wrote:

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Am Donnerstag, 22. September 2011 schrieb Will Stephenson:

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On Thursday 22 Sep 2011 09:21:49 Robert Lihm wrote:

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On 22.09.2011, at 08:13, Helen South wrote:

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I couldn't disagree more strongly.

I think they are absolutely beautiful, stunning work. I loved Nuno's shirt design and I think these are a delightful adaptation of that design. I have made the black one my background right now! The olive green one is lovely too - the variations in color look great on my monitor. The bright one.... *ouch* :P

I like the idea of picking up our shirt design! And I finally like how Richard made it. I would go with the less bright green ... but that's a question of taste :-)

I liked the shirt design, but it's what, 18 months old now? And it is derived from what I call 'vegetative swirls' which are soo passé (check out the 2002 Garland lightshade in the 'Art and Design from the 2000s' collection at MOMA: http://bit.ly/o6nYRs) everywhere except free software graphic design. Jimmac introduced them (in a high quality execution) for 11.2 in 2009, and I pointed this out then.

We don't need objections now. We need alternatives or votes.

Greetings, Stephan

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11:25

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Am Donnerstag, 22. September 2011 schrieb Helen South:

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Now someone has "just done it" and put time and effort into create nice artwork, and NOW you all want to add criticisms and say you don't like this or that.

As you reply to my email, I feel misunderstood. I was just trying to say what you say too: whoever didn't follow "just do it" should shut up now. There is no time for objections - the only luxury we have is give one or another a GO! Constructive cristism is fine IMO, but no "this is 2000, we need something fresh". Greetings, Stephan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-artwork+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-artwork+help@opensuse.org

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11:44

New subject: [opensuse-artwork] openSUSE-12.1 wallpaper

On 22.09.2011, at 13:25, Stephan Kulow wrote:

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Am Donnerstag, 22. September 2011 schrieb Helen South:

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Now someone has "just done it" and put time and effort into create nice artwork, and NOW you all want to add criticisms and say you don't like this or that.

As you reply to my email, I feel misunderstood. I was just trying to say what you say too: whoever didn't follow "just do it" should shut up now. There is no time for objections - the only luxury we have is give one or another a GO! Constructive cristism is fine IMO, but no "this is 2000, we need something fresh".

Yep, we need to push things forward now. If somebody has creative ideas for the next release ... we could open a new brainstorming-thread. How is that idea? Cheers, Robert

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11:41

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On 22.09.2011, at 13:21, Helen South wrote:

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I just wanted to add, that months ago I tried to bring up some discussion about vision and theme and was told 'don't talk about it, just do it'. So the conversation more or less ended, and I didn't really follow any further discussion due to other commitments in the meantime.

That is sad and I'm sorry for that. The "don't talk, just do!" comment is really common and it's IMHO one of the top 5 creativity and creatives-community killers! No discussion means no solid design!

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Now someone has "just done it" and put time and effort into create nice artwork, and NOW you all want to add criticisms and say you don't like this or that.

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This is quite absurd.

We should take the criticisms like contributions for the 12.2 artwork. The artwork Richard and Piotr made are really good for the scenario we have now! On the other hand Will is absolutely right. We will not win a design-award for this. But that's ok, lets learn for the next cycle :-)

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There needs to be a clear artwork vision discussed well before release, outlines put forward of the look and theme that is wanted for the distribution/release, a list of what specific artworks are required. THAT is when everyone can air their views. At this point of the process it should be minor tweaks and ajustments. But THAT would have required a DISCUSSION not 'just do it'.

There is a difference between bikeshedding and planning. The project needs to consult with the creative members of the team and appoint an art team leader who has a clue about what is required for the components of the release, and then TRUST THEIR JUDGEMENT to guide the artwork production. This needs to happen months before the release, not weeks.

+1000 :-) We should start with the artwork-discussion for 12.2 directly after the release of 12.1. @Helen, would you volunteer to help me to set this up and make it a good productive thing? That would help me a lot :-) Thank you for sharing you thoughts, you hit the point! Robert

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On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 8:49 PM, Stephan Kulow wrote:

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Am Donnerstag, 22. September 2011 schrieb Will Stephenson:

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On Thursday 22 Sep 2011 09:21:49 Robert Lihm wrote:

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On 22.09.2011, at 08:13, Helen South wrote:

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I couldn't disagree more strongly.

I think they are absolutely beautiful, stunning work. I loved Nuno's shirt design and I think these are a delightful adaptation of that design. I have made the black one my background right now! The olive green one is lovely too - the variations in color look great on my monitor. The bright one.... *ouch* :P

I like the idea of picking up our shirt design! And I finally like how Richard made it. I would go with the less bright green ... but that's a question of taste :-)

I liked the shirt design, but it's what, 18 months old now? And it is derived from what I call 'vegetative swirls' which are soo passé (check out the 2002 Garland lightshade in the 'Art and Design from the 2000s' collection at MOMA: http://bit.ly/o6nYRs) everywhere except free software graphic design. Jimmac introduced them (in a high quality execution) for 11.2 in 2009, and I pointed this out then.

We don't need objections now. We need alternatives or votes.

Greetings, Stephan

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11:54

New subject: [opensuse-artwork] openSUSE-12.1 wallpaper

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We should start with the artwork-discussion for 12.2 directly after the release of 12.1. @Helen, would you volunteer to help me to set this up and make it a good productive thing? That would help me a lot :-)

Thank you for sharing you thoughts, you hit the point!

Robert

Robert, I'd be glad to be involved. I'd put my openSUSE involvement on hold for some time; I need to keep it quite minimal but if we work together on planning and creation, I can be useful without overload. I'll look forward to discussing it with you a little later. -- IRC: helen_au helen.south@opensuse.org helensouth.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-artwork+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-artwork+help@opensuse.org

Robert Lihm

11:58

New subject: [opensuse-marketing] Re: [opensuse-artwork] openSUSE-12.1 wallpaper

On 22.09.2011, at 13:54, Helen South wrote:

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We should start with the artwork-discussion for 12.2 directly after the release of 12.1. @Helen, would you volunteer to help me to set this up and make it a good productive thing? That would help me a lot :-)

Thank you for sharing you thoughts, you hit the point!

Robert

Robert, I'd be glad to be involved. I'd put my openSUSE involvement on hold for some time; I need to keep it quite minimal but if we work together on planning and creation, I can be useful without overload.

I'll look forward to discussing it with you a little later.

Cool! Let's call it a plan! :-) Thank you! Robert

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Izabel Valverde

14:04

New subject: [opensuse-marketing] Re: [opensuse-artwork] openSUSE-12.1 wallpaper

2011/9/22 Helen South :

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We should start with the artwork-discussion for 12.2 directly after the release of 12.1. @Helen, would you volunteer to help me to set this up and make it a good productive thing? That would help me a lot :-)

Thank you for sharing you thoughts, you hit the point!

Robert

Robert, I'd be glad to be involved. I'd put my openSUSE involvement on hold for some time; I need to keep it quite minimal but if we work together on planning and creation, I can be useful without overload.

I'll look forward to discussing it with you a little later.

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Hi Helen, I hope you really come back to discuss! It's been hard to not have your ideas and hands... Take care, Izabel -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-artwork+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-artwork+help@opensuse.org

jdd

12:09

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Le 22/09/2011 13:41, Robert Lihm a écrit :

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On 22.09.2011, at 13:21, Helen South wrote:

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+1000 :-)

We should start with the artwork-discussion for 12.2 directly after the release of 12.1. @Helen, would you volunteer to help me to set this up and make it a good productive thing? That would help me a lot :-)

please, do, you two are, in my mind, the two really that deserve the job :-). You have the skill, the ideas and I would be glad to help (but my artwork skills are near zero) jdd -- http://www.dodin.net http://pizzanetti.fr -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-artwork+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-artwork+help@opensuse.org

Robert Lihm

11:26

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On 22.09.2011, at 12:45, Will Stephenson wrote:

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On Thursday 22 Sep 2011 09:21:49 Robert Lihm wrote:

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On 22.09.2011, at 08:13, Helen South wrote:

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I couldn't disagree more strongly.

I think they are absolutely beautiful, stunning work. I loved Nuno's shirt design and I think these are a delightful adaptation of that design. I have made the black one my background right now! The olive green one is lovely too - the variations in color look great on my monitor. The bright one.... *ouch* :P

I like the idea of picking up our shirt design! And I finally like how Richard made it. I would go with the less bright green ... but that's a question of taste :-)

I liked the shirt design, but it's what, 18 months old now? And it is derived from what I call 'vegetative swirls' which are soo passé (check out the 2002 Garland lightshade in the 'Art and Design from the 2000s' collection at MOMA: http://bit.ly/o6nYRs) everywhere except free software graphic design. Jimmac introduced them (in a high quality execution) for 11.2 in 2009, and I pointed this out then.

True! But we are running out time ... so I guess our chances to come up with something really new are bad.

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Apropos to much green: I had this simple idea yesterday:

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/294274/os12.1/playground/os12.1-Wallpaper-QRCode.pn g

I know, I sad some day ago that green as background colour on a screen is not good ... but in this case I had to brake the rule :-) This Wallpaper is made for being replaced quickly by the user.

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We need a variety of strong, unique wallpapers for this release and I think there's room for all kinds of contributions.

I think photos are welcome as well!

What we _need right now_ is a direction, so we can make the installation/etc. artwork ready to fly.

Ack, we need one main design to inform the release. Look at how KDE ships wallpapers: one graphic design for each major release, supplemented by a mixed set of photographic/graphic wallpapers that allow users to quickly find something that represents their personal taste.

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That means, the we need something for the Welcome-Screen, Boot-Loader, etc.

Maybe we can flip the colours of Richards draft for this cases?

Or do it very simple like my draft ... I would also be fine with Piotr's natural Design.

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Regarding geometry, from a previous discussion, I got the impression that many people in the distribution felt that it was an exciting idea that reflected openSUSE's origins. It doesn't have to be the only artwork, but I think it should definitely be there as an option and many users will enjoy it.

I think the mathematical-wallpaper would be cool as option. As default it's to geeky.

I do like them for their nostalgic value, harking back to the days when i got into SUSE Linux. The Attachmate reboot of corporate SUSE as a 'back to good old SUSE' also gives the SUSE brand a certain amount of momentum in this direction at the moment, so perhaps we should ride that. However what Helen said about just plonking a surf render onto a gradient.

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I think the 'pure' output of the modeling program is obviously not what's wanted, but it is an important starting point. Finding interesting shapes to work with. From there, the form can be experiemented with - play with surface decoration, light, background - it's not just used as a big lump of a thing, but turned into a design element. I wish I could do more with the geometry designs, but I suck at digital art and find 3D software rather difficult. (Anyway, studying for my first psychology exam....). If people who are good with 3D could create some variations on the designs, maybe including some 'wire frame' type outputs, also very simple line outputs and different viewpoints, things that 2D artists could play with?

What about inviting some classes of college digital art students to explore the idea?

+1000 Helen. I did not manage this for germany till now. But if you have any connections use them! That would be great!

Yes, please find a way to get some fresh ideas into the artwork mixing pot, but I fear it's too late for getting students involved to produce anything for 12.1. The fedora approach seems to work.

We should try to get them for 12.2. And we should start with 12.2 artwork directly after the release of 12.1!

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( I don't like the 'more than a product' slogan much - is that what we are going with at the moment?)

No ... it just fit to the shirt and I like the whole message. Finally openSUSE is more then a product :-)

"More than a product" refers to the openSUSE project, whereas we are discussing the wallpaper and branding for the openSUSE distribution, which is very much the /product/ of the project.

my 2 cents, and sorry that I bring nothing more than my own tastes and experiences to the discussion

Will.

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Bernhard M. Wiedemann

11:35

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On 09/22/2011 09:21 AM, Robert Lihm wrote:

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Hello all!

On 22.09.2011, at 08:13, Helen South wrote: ...

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( I don't like the 'more than a product' slogan much - is that what we are going with at the moment?)

No ... it just fit to the shirt and I like the whole message. Finally openSUSE is more then a product :-)

I don't like the slogan either - because it is suggesting that someone would even consider that openSUSE was a mere product. Ciao Bernhard M. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-artwork+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-artwork+help@opensuse.org

Helen South

11:46

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I don't like the slogan either - because it is suggesting that someone would even consider that openSUSE was a mere product.

Ciao Bernhard M. --

LOL! Very good.... Well it's not too bad I guess.

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As you reply to my email, I feel misunderstood. I was just trying to say what you say too: whoever didn't follow "just do it" should shut up now. There is no time for objections - the only luxury we have is give one or another a GO! Constructive cristism is fine IMO, but no "this is 2000, we need something fresh".

Greetings, Stephan

Apologies, I selected the wrong email to respond to... it was Will's initial criticism that I think I was reacting to. I apologize for the terse tone, but I was just amazed to poke my head in and think "maybe I can help out a little" to find such negativity ... these guys are doing terrific work for not much appreciation. -- IRC: helen_au helen.south@opensuse.org helensouth.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-artwork+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-artwork+help@opensuse.org

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