In openSUSE 11.0's server 1.4.0.90 and (reported) randr 1.2, my radeon rv380 has the (virtual desktop area) panning I need by setting in xorg.conf's device section 'Option "NoRandr"'. In openSUSE 11.1's server 1.5.2 & randr 1.2, 'Option "NoRandr"' is apparently invalid or ignored, even with Intel [815,845,G33] instead of Radeon (rv200 or rv380). With openSUSE's server 1.6.5 & (x)randr 1.3.2, supposedly panning is available, but the virtual lines in xorg.conf's screen sections must not any more valid to enable it. 1-(on rv200 radeon, as does rv380 on openSUSE 11.3's 1.8.0/1.3.2, both using radeon drivers) 'xrandr --panning 1920x1200' from Konsole just produces a usage message. From reading the man page, nothing more seems required. What am I missing? 2-How/where, prior to X startup, is randr --panning(?) supposed to be triggered and remembered? 3-If it is possible to pan in 11.1's 1.5.2/1.2 on radeon[rv200,rv380], how is it to be configured? The main reason for this is web page development. I use one CRT, and run different resolutions on multiple simultaneous X instances (:0, :1, :2, :n). Without panning, emulating widescreen modes isn't doable. I've been happy with openSUSE 11.0, but it's due out of support in a matter of days. So, I need to find something I can upgrade to that works as I need it to. -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-xorg+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-xorg+help@opensuse.org