[opensuse-wiki] Role of templates in wiki organization
Ok, some comments on the particular points you proposed so far:
1. Use of Templates While I'm not an expert in that area, John's idea sounds sufficient to me and linking Templates with standardized formats and designs within the Guidelines make sense from my perspective.
Terms: 1) 'wiki templates' are those found in namespace Templates: described in detail with table that lists templates used there in: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Template_messages and our small edition is here http://en.opensuse.org/Templates Note that above is just redirect to openSUSE:Template Messages which is moved out of search engine reach. 2) 'article templates' is skeleton of certain article type with accompanying example article, or real article that is using such template; examples are listed here http://en.opensuse.org/Weekly_News#Templates Basic use of wiki templates is simple, provided that user can find already created templates as listed in http://en.opensuse.org/Templates . This effort to list templates needs more work to pick up more existing ones, and remove unused, that were created time ago as part of someones experiment. The other types of templates, could be example images with explanation how to annotate details, videos with instructions how to take and edit them. All that has to be integrated in "Article writing guidelines", or "Demo video guides", and so on. -- Regards, Rajko OpenSUSE Wiki Team: http://en.opensuse.org/Wiki_Team People of openSUSE: http://en.opensuse.org/People_of_openSUSE/About -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help@opensuse.org
Rajko M. wrote:
2) 'article templates' is skeleton of certain article type with accompanying example article, or real article that is using such template; examples are listed here http://en.opensuse.org/Weekly_News#Templates
Basic use of wiki templates is simple, provided that user can find already created templates as listed in http://en.opensuse.org/Templates . This effort to list templates needs more work to pick up more existing ones, and remove unused, that were created time ago as part of someones experiment.
The other types of templates, could be example images with explanation how to annotate details, videos with instructions how to take and edit them.
All that has to be integrated in "Article writing guidelines", or "Demo video guides", and so on.
Hello, Well after receiving this mail,i actually started working on finding and placing out the templates(at the required place).But as i moved ahead i saw that there are many template pages (which are of no use) with broken links , empty pages ,or just simple texts which does not make any sense.So my question is to ,how do i deal with this.Should i mark with Template:SpeedDelete? Or any other alternative... :) Best, Shayon (Wwarlock) -- openSUSE Wiki Team Member http://en.opensuse.org/User:Wwarlock Website: http://www.shay0n.hpage.com Email: hkwarlock@gmail.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help@opensuse.org
On Sunday 25 October 2009 08:53:31 Shayon wrote:
should i mark with Template:SpeedDelete?
The short answer is:" No." The long answer is: When you play with templates, you have to understand how they work, so thanks for asking before acting. That would include text of SpeedDelete to every page that has template that you want to delete.
Or any other alternative... :)
You can list them in: http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Template_Messages_to_Review The TemplateNav is right now work in progress, so don't worry about it. -- Regards, Rajko OpenSUSE Wiki Team: http://en.opensuse.org/Wiki_Team People of openSUSE: http://en.opensuse.org/People_of_openSUSE/About -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help@opensuse.org
Rajko,
The other types of templates, could be example images with explanation how to annotate details, videos with instructions how to take and edit them.
All that has to be integrated in "Article writing guidelines", or "Demo video guides", and so on.
Yeah, the article templates are the ones I was thinking about in context of the Guidelines. Thanks for making this clear. But ... we should also encourage the editors to use the wiki templates within created articles like e.g. "tested with openSUSE 11.0, 11.1, 11.2". Furthermore, if we decide to use the FlaggedRevs Approach proposed by cboltz as our QA Process, the editor may place a wiki template "under construction/WIP" on top of the new article until a very first revision has been approved by the wiki staff. Thus also the usage of wiki templates should be explained within the Guidelines where appropriate. Still on the same page? Best, Rupert -- Rupert Horstkötter openSUSE Community Assistant http://en.opensuse.org/User:Rhorstkoetter Email: rhorstkoetter@opensuse.org Jabber: ruperthorstkoetter@googlemail.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help@opensuse.org
On Monday 26 October 2009 05:26:45 Rupert Horstkötter wrote:
Rajko,
The other types of templates, could be example images with explanation how to annotate details, videos with instructions how to take and edit them.
All that has to be integrated in "Article writing guidelines", or "Demo video guides", and so on.
Yeah, the article templates are the ones I was thinking about in context of the Guidelines. Thanks for making this clear.
But ... we should also encourage the editors to use the wiki templates within created articles like e.g. "tested with openSUSE 11.0, 11.1, 11.2".
There is template http://en.opensuse.org/Template:TestedOn I has more deficiencies then good sides: - it doesn't reveal much about prerequisites to succeed besides to have installed certain released version, which is not much. - it is visually too noisy. If necessary to hang on badges on articles they have to be much smaller, must have certain position that doesn't interfere with article flow, and that is the same for all articles. There is http://en.opensuse.org/Template:Infobox_Software that may require rework to include more information. If we have to have tested with then we have to make similar template.
Furthermore, if we decide to use the FlaggedRevs Approach proposed by cboltz as our QA Process, the editor may place a wiki template "under construction/WIP" on top of the new article until a very first revision has been approved by the wiki staff.
"Under Construction" is probably the most laughed out term on the web. See http://www.cs.utah.edu/~gk/atwork/ We have this http://en.opensuse.org/Template:Cleanup-in-progress but it is meant as temporary badge while someone is really working on the page, to prevent midair collisions. It should not be forgotten as I did with http://en.opensuse.org/ATI :( Actually it should not be used if editors have instructions how to rescue their version when midair collision happens.
Thus also the usage of wiki templates should be explained within the Guidelines where appropriate.
Yes it should :-) (Just, as mentioned somewhere, to find how to squeeze more hours in a day)
Still on the same page?
On templates it is easy to be on same page.
Best, Rupert
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