[opensuse-wiki] default skin on wiki.o.o
After discussing with henne, we came to the conclusion to prefer bentofluid[1] over standard bento[2] for the new wiki skin. I think the skin is ready to be used as default on wiki.o.o to get some more feedback and have it ready for production at the same time as the wiki relaunch. This will hopefully align with the release of the new bento design on build.o.o, software.o.o etc. Therefore I propose to set bentofluid as default beginning with next week. Greetings [1] http://wiki.opensuse.org/index.php?title=Portal:Development&useskin=bentofluid [2] http://wiki.opensuse.org/index.php?title=Portal:Development&useskin=bento -- Thomas Schmidt (tschmidt [at] suse.de) SUSE Linux Products GmbH :: Research & Development :: Tools "Don't Panic", Douglas Adams (1952 - 11.05.2001) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help@opensuse.org
On 23.04.2010, at 15:41, Thomas Schmidt wrote:
After discussing with henne, we came to the conclusion to prefer bentofluid[1] over standard bento[2] for the new wiki skin. I think the skin is ready to be used as default on wiki.o.o to get some more feedback and have it ready for production at the same time as the wiki relaunch. This will hopefully align with the release of the new bento design on build.o.o, software.o.o etc.
Well, my personal opinion as designer is, that it's better to go with the fixed bento theme as default and provide the option to switch the theme permanently to fluid. Why I vote for fixed bento? In the fluid version, the line-lenght can easily get to long. And I'm pretty sure, that normal users [1] ayes freakout on such long lines. So it's usability issue. Best, Robert [1] In this case, Normal Users are people not hacking the whole day code in a texteditor like emacs/vim
Therefore I propose to set bentofluid as default beginning with next week.
Greetings
[1] http://wiki.opensuse.org/index.php?title=Portal:Development&useskin=bentofluid [2] http://wiki.opensuse.org/index.php?title=Portal:Development&useskin=bento
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Hi, On 04/26/2010 08:30 AM, Robert Lihm wrote:
On 23.04.2010, at 15:41, Thomas Schmidt wrote:
After discussing with henne, we came to the conclusion to prefer bentofluid[1] over standard bento[2] for the new wiki skin. I think the skin is ready to be used as default on wiki.o.o to get some more feedback and have it ready for production at the same time as the wiki relaunch. This will hopefully align with the release of the new bento design on build.o.o, software.o.o etc.
Well, my personal opinion as designer is, that it's better to go with the fixed bento theme as default and provide the option to switch the theme permanently to fluid. Why I vote for fixed bento? In the fluid version, the line-lenght can easily get to long. And I'm pretty sure, that normal users [1] ayes freakout on such long lines. So it's usability issue.
They will never get this far because they will never get the fixed width wiki. There are a whole lot of mediawiki installations and very few use fixed width. Every popular mediawiki installation I'm aware of looks basically the same. I know its considered a controversial topic but "doing it like everyone else does" is a factor. One that lets me swing to fluid width. Henne -- Henne Vogelsang, openSUSE. Everybody has a plan, until they get hit. - Mike Tyson -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help@opensuse.org
On Mon, 2010-04-26 at 08:30 +0200, Robert Lihm wrote:
Well, my personal opinion as designer is, that it's better to go with the fixed bento theme as default and provide the option to switch the theme permanently to fluid. Why I vote for fixed bento? In the fluid version, the line-lenght can easily get to long. And I'm pretty sure, that normal users [1] ayes freakout on such long lines. So it's usability issue.
Hi Robert! Why not get the best of both worlds? Go with the fluid layout, which is better for people with smaller screens, preventing the horizontal scroll, but have a max-width (defined in ems) to prevent having extremely long lines? Lovely skin btw. -- Jakub Steiner <jimmac@novell.com> Novell, Inc. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help@opensuse.org
On 04/28/2010 01:16 PM, Jakub Steiner wrote:
On Mon, 2010-04-26 at 08:30 +0200, Robert Lihm wrote:
Well, my personal opinion as designer is, that it's better to go with the fixed bento theme as default and provide the option to switch the theme permanently to fluid. Why I vote for fixed bento? In the fluid version, the line-lenght can easily get to long. And I'm pretty sure, that normal users [1] ayes freakout on such long lines. So it's usability issue.
Hi Robert!
Why not get the best of both worlds? Go with the fluid layout, which is better for people with smaller screens, preventing the horizontal scroll, but have a max-width (defined in ems) to prevent having extremely long lines?
Lovely skin btw.
Something else Frank Sundermeyer found is, that the fluid skin does not compress the blank space on the left and right of the content area when making the window smaller. Greetings -- Thomas Schmidt (tom [at] opensuse.org) openSUSE Boosters Team "Don't Panic", Douglas Adams (1952 - 11.05.2001) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help@opensuse.org
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