[opensuse-web] Wiki search left en.opensuse.org
I tried to search some topics on the wiki and all I get is: ---- There were no results matching the query. Create the page "Kde troubleshooting" on this wiki! ---- It doesn't matter am I logged in or not. -- Regards, Rajko -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-web+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-web+owner@opensuse.org
Am Donnerstag, 29. März 2012, 23:31:14 schrieb Rajko M.:
I tried to search some topics on the wiki and all I get is: ---- There were no results matching the query.
Create the page "Kde troubleshooting" on this wiki! ----
It doesn't matter am I logged in or not.
We (de-Wiki) watched the same issues. For examble. If I search in the German Wiki for "Paketbau" I get no result, nothing, zero... But there are a lot of pages. I translate them currently. Only if I know the exact name of the page, than i will get a result. Is there anyone who can improve this tool? Best Regards Wolfgang openSUSE Member DE-Wiki-Team -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-web+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-web+owner@opensuse.org
Hello, Am Freitag, 30. März 2012 schrieb Wolfgang Hahnl:
Am Donnerstag, 29. März 2012, 23:31:14 schrieb Rajko M.:
I tried to search some topics on the wiki and all I get is: ---- There were no results matching the query.
We (de-Wiki) watched the same issues.
Is there anyone who can improve this tool?
Yes, write to admin@o.o instead of a random[1] mailinglist ;-) It looks like the lucene search backend is down or broken - Matthew (or someone else), can you please have a look at it? Regards, Christian Boltz [1] well, opensuse-web isn't too random, but still... -- My concern is that Flash seems to be closer to Swiss cheese than anything else. [Vahis in evergreen] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-web+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-web+owner@opensuse.org
Hello, the wiki search is still broken (since some days) :-( - at least in en.opensuse.org and de.opensuse.org, but I'm afraid it could affect all wikis. Can you please fix it? (The text quoted below includes some hints what could cause the problem.) Am Freitag, 30. März 2012 schrieb Christian Boltz:
Am Freitag, 30. März 2012 schrieb Wolfgang Hahnl:
Am Donnerstag, 29. März 2012, 23:31:14 schrieb Rajko M.:
I tried to search some topics on the wiki and all I get is: ---- There were no results matching the query.
We (de-Wiki) watched the same issues.
It looks like the lucene search backend is down or broken - Matthew (or someone else), can you please have a look at it?
Regards, Christian Boltz -- Now I hope the best for my seven 1.44MB disks, oh yes, very old ... and I feel about 8 years younger by copying files to disks. [Thomas Porschberg in opensuse] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-web+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-web+owner@opensuse.org
Am Montag, 2. April 2012, 13:37:36 schrieb Christian Boltz:
Hello,
the wiki search is still broken (since some days) :-( - at least in en.opensuse.org and de.opensuse.org, but I'm afraid it could affect all wikis.
Can you please fix it?
+1 urgent! Not only that, it is also the server on which the counter (de wiki) is 12.1 offline? Basically, what the wiki not ok. Last flew in a few minutes is in the offline mode while editing posts. I thought that this bug was .... at least did not happen anymore. Thanks for doing! -- \__/ · … Grüße aus dem Ländle … /(0 0)\ · … openSUSE Member … (°_°) _________ \ )\ ||-----------vv| || || · … die "SuS(i)E" sei mit euch, wo immer ihr auch seid … · … wer die "SuS(i)E" nicht kennt, hats leben verpennt …
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Lisufas Linuxfreundeonline <linuxsusefan@opensuse.org> 4/2/2012 5:44 AM >>> Am Montag, 2. April 2012, 13:37:36 schrieb Christian Boltz: Hello,
the wiki search is still broken (since some days) :-( - at least in en.opensuse.org and de.opensuse.org, but I'm afraid it could affect all wikis.
Can you please fix it?
+1 urgent!
Not only that, it is also the server on which the counter (de wiki) is 12.1 offline? Basically, what the wiki not ok. Last flew in a few minutes is in the offline mode while editing posts. I thought that this bug was .... at least did not happen anymore.
Sorry, I was in the mountains for a few days :) It looks like the search server was restarted without my knowledge, so the search daemon was not running. The indexer was having a few issues as well. It's all running now, and I will look into creating a init script for it, so that it will start along with the system. -Matt
On Mon, 02 Apr 2012 13:37:36 +0200 Christian Boltz <opensuse@cboltz.de> wrote:
Hello,
the wiki search is still broken (since some days) :-( - at least in en.opensuse.org and de.opensuse.org, but I'm afraid it could affect all wikis.
Can you please fix it? (The text quoted below includes some hints what could cause the problem.)
Am Freitag, 30. März 2012 schrieb Christian Boltz:
Am Freitag, 30. März 2012 schrieb Wolfgang Hahnl:
Am Donnerstag, 29. März 2012, 23:31:14 schrieb Rajko M.:
I tried to search some topics on the wiki and all I get is: ---- There were no results matching the query.
We (de-Wiki) watched the same issues.
It looks like the lucene search backend is down or broken - Matthew (or someone else), can you please have a look at it?
the search worked for me just a few minutes ago, when i was searching for "Tumbleweed". But as usual i had to use the "Everything" in the navigation bar to get anything meaningful. regarding the lucene backend, Matthew would need to check for it. darix -- openSUSE - SUSE Linux is my linux openSUSE is good for you www.opensuse.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-web+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-web+owner@opensuse.org
On Wed, 4 Apr 2012 19:49:31 +0200 Marcus Rückert <mrueckert@suse.de> wrote:
the search worked for me just a few minutes ago, when i was searching for "Tumbleweed". But as usual i had to use the "Everything" in the navigation bar to get anything meaningful.
regarding the lucene backend, Matthew would need to check for it.
How about changing default to search "Everything" (all namespaces without few that are in essence tools) and influence output by adjusting scoring rules. Matt is that possible? (I tried to read more about extension Lucene-search, but there is not much about configuring scoring rules.) -- Regards, Rajko -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-web+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-web+owner@opensuse.org
Hey, On 04/05/2012 02:05 AM, Rajko M. wrote:
On Wed, 4 Apr 2012 19:49:31 +0200 Marcus Rückert <mrueckert@suse.de> wrote:
the search worked for me just a few minutes ago, when i was searching for "Tumbleweed". But as usual i had to use the "Everything" in the navigation bar to get anything meaningful.
regarding the lucene backend, Matthew would need to check for it.
How about changing default to search "Everything" (all namespaces without few that are in essence tools)
Please don't. Especially openSUSE: is one big chaotic info dump again, because nobody gives a shit about the wiki rules. I don't want our distro users to suffer from this just because... Henne -- Henne Vogelsang, openSUSE http://www.hennevogel.de Everybody has a plan, until they get hit. - Mike Tyson -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-web+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-web+owner@opensuse.org
Hello, Am Donnerstag, 5. April 2012 schrieb Henne Vogelsang:
On 04/05/2012 02:05 AM, Rajko M. wrote:
How about changing default to search "Everything" (all namespaces without few that are in essence tools)
Please don't. Especially openSUSE: is one big chaotic info dump again, because nobody gives a shit about the wiki rules. I don't want our distro users to suffer from this just because...
One more reason to make the search better. (No smiley, I'm serious about that.) IMHO this includes searching all namespaces - and rating the main and portal namespace up so that they are always on top of the search results. I had an interesting IRC discussion with yaloki on this some months ago. The TL;DR summary is something like "lucene itsself is a very good search engine, but the implementation in MediaWiki / the MWSearch extension is just broken". Pascal was quite shocked when reading the MWSearch code. It more or less does the equivalent of "SELECT ... WHERE content LIKE '%searchword%'. In other words: lucene has lots of features to get better search results and to influence the search result order - but we don't use them. The people involved in the discussion allowed to send the IRC log. It's attached and contains lots of useful knownledge, so please read it ;-) (If you are in a hurry, you can start reading at 01:17) Regards, Christian Boltz -- TikiWiki ist eine sehr umfassende Sammlung von Sicherheitslücken, konzeptuellen Problemen und Performancekillern, die alles kann und nichts richtig. [Kristian Köhntopp auf http://blog.koehntopp.de/archives/2051-5-Jahre-Blogging.html]
Christian Boltz <opensuse@cboltz.de> 4/15/2012 11:02 AM >>> Hello,
Am Donnerstag, 5. April 2012 schrieb Henne Vogelsang:
On 04/05/2012 02:05 AM, Rajko M. wrote:
How about changing default to search "Everything" (all namespaces without few that are in essence tools)
Please don't. Especially openSUSE: is one big chaotic info dump again, because nobody gives a shit about the wiki rules. I don't want our distro users to suffer from this just because...
One more reason to make the search better. (No smiley, I'm serious about that.) IMHO this includes searching all namespaces - and rating the main and portal namespace up so that they are always on top of the search results.
That is a good idea, but as you mention, not really "doable" with the current extension.
I had an interesting IRC discussion with yaloki on this some months ago. The TL;DR summary is something like "lucene itsself is a very good search engine, but the implementation in MediaWiki / the MWSearch extension is just broken".
I wouldn't call it "broken", but it has pretty minimal features. It was, and I think still is, the best searching extension available right now. It sure beats the heck out of the default search, which is why Wikipedia uses it.
Pascal was quite shocked when reading the MWSearch code. It more or less does the equivalent of "SELECT ... WHERE content LIKE '%searchword%'. In other words: lucene has lots of features to get better search results and to influence the search result order - but we don't use them.
Hey, it's all open source. You know what that means :) Seriously though, there really is nothing stopping the wiki team from building a better search extension. We could either customize it to fit openSUSE, or we can add features in general and submit it upstream. Heck, we can even build one from scratch if we want to.
On Thursday 29 March 2012 23.31:14 Rajko M. wrote:
I tried to search some topics on the wiki and all I get is: ---- There were no results matching the query.
Create the page "Kde troubleshooting" on this wiki! ----
It doesn't matter am I logged in or not.
-- Regards, Rajko
same here searching a generic term like grub give nada -- Bruno Friedmann Ioda-Net Sàrl www.ioda-net.ch openSUSE Member & Ambassador GPG KEY : D5C9B751C4653227 irc: tigerfoot -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-web+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-web+owner@opensuse.org
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Bruno Friedmann
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Christian Boltz
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Henne Vogelsang
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Lisufas Linuxfreundeonline
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Marcus Rückert
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Matthew Ehle
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Rajko M.
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Wolfgang Hahnl