Hunting for bits
I am making an OEM installable image of Leap 15.5. One part is where you tell it what packages/patterns to install. Generally, this works fine. But I seem always to be missing a few things. One that drives me crazy is: Who defines the alias 'll' (ls -L) for bash? I see this for zfs (/etc/zshrc). But I do not see this for bash. At least it seems not to be defined anywhere in /etc. Anyone know which package contains this? -- Roger Oberholtzer
On Mon, Oct 9, 2023 at 11:50 AM Roger Oberholtzer
I am making an OEM installable image of Leap 15.5. One part is where you tell it what packages/patterns to install. Generally, this works fine. But I seem always to be missing a few things. One that drives me crazy is:
Who defines the alias 'll' (ls -L) for bash? I see this for zfs (/etc/zshrc). But I do not see this for bash. At least it seems not to be defined anywhere in /etc.
Anyone know which package contains this?
andrei@leap154:~/src/dracut> rpm -qf /etc/profile.d/ls.bash aaa_base-extras-84.87+git20180409.04c9dae-150300.10.3.1.x86_64 andrei@leap154:~/src/dracut>
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I have a older 8 gig Dell 5110 running 15.5 which periodically shuts off the computer. I do not think this is an NVIDIA problem because the problem is recent and I have had the machine for over 5 years. Plenty of swap. Online mentions dust in the fans. Not sure why its happening. cWSIV
On 2023-11-15 17:56, Carl Spitzer {L Juno} via openSUSE Users wrote:
I have a older 8 gig Dell 5110 running 15.5 which periodically shuts off the computer.
Please, Carl, don't hijack threads. You are an old hand, you should know this. 23-10-09 09:34 Roger Oberholtzer users@li . Hunting for bits 23-10-09 11:55 Andrei Borzenkov users@li |-> 23-10-09 18:01 Masaru Nomiya users@li . \-> 23-11-15 08:56 Carl Spitzer {L J users@li \-OpenSuSE 15.5 shutting down You took the post from Masaru, hitted "reply", then deleted the subject line and wrote your own. Please don't do this, it shows. Start a new thread by clicking "new" and write the mail list address.
I do not think this is an NVIDIA problem because the problem is recent and I have had the machine for over 5 years.
Monitor the temperatures before it crashes. Or try removing the proprietary nvidia driver. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from openSUSE 15.5 (Laicolasse))
Carl Spitzer {L Juno} composed on 2023-11-15 08:56 (UTC-0800):
I have a older 8 gig Dell 5110 running 15.5 which periodically shuts off the computer. I do not think this is an NVIDIA problem because the problem is recent and I have had the machine for over 5 years.
Plenty of swap.
Online mentions dust in the fans.
Dust is insulation. Insulation blocks heat rejection. Blocked heat rejection causes temperature rise. Temperature rise can escalate to excess and cause component failure and thus shutdown. Most computers occasionally need their innards cleaned to prevent heat-related failure, especially in smokey environments, where computers absent cleaning can easily fail within 5 years of brand new from tar and dust accumulation. -- Evolution as taught in public schools is, like religion, based on faith, not based on science. Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata
On 11/15/23 10:56, Carl Spitzer {L Juno} via openSUSE Users wrote:
I have a older 8 gig Dell 5110 running 15.5 which periodically shuts off the computer. I do not think this is an NVIDIA problem because the problem is recent and I have had the machine for over 5 years.
Plenty of swap.
Don't forget to look for capacitors that look like a puffy beer can or a Dr. Pepper that was left in the freezer too long. Dell usually uses good grade caps, but nobody is immune from a capacitor degrading on the motherboard. This causes random hard-locks whenever the right circumstances present. This could be 5 minutes or 5 weeks of runtime. Always worth a quick look. If the top of a cap isn't flat -- it's suspect. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.
David C. Rankin composed on 2023-11-15 19:43 (UTC-0600):
Carl Spitzer {L Juno} wrote:
I have a older 8 gig Dell 5110 running 15.5 which periodically shuts off the computer. I do not think this is an NVIDIA problem because the problem is recent and I have had the machine for over 5 years.
Plenty of swap.
Don't forget to look for capacitors that look like a puffy beer can or a Dr. Pepper that was left in the freezer too long.
Dell usually uses good grade caps, but nobody is immune from a capacitor degrading on the motherboard.
This causes random hard-locks whenever the right circumstances present. This could be 5 minutes or 5 weeks of runtime.
Always worth a quick look. If the top of a cap isn't flat -- it's suspect.
FWIW, most motherboards made in the past decade or more have had their most important electrolytic caps retired in favor of far more reliable polys. The electrolytics remaining are small and tend to last much longer than their bigger brothers ever did. It's rare to spot a small 'lytic bulging, and uncommon to spot a small one leaking. The dividing line between small and not small is around 7mm diameter and 12mm height in typical height larger than width profiles. Also, small ones usually have smooth tops, while larger have etches in the tops to serve as weak spots to allow expansion without explosion when one swells. OTOH, computer power supplies are still being made with electrolytics, IMO to the complete exclusion of polys, and too many with 2nd & 3rd string brands good enough only to survive warranty period. And, a bad cap in a PSU can kill a motherboard in the process of dying itself. Thus, just popping the cover for a quick look isn't as easy as it used to be. -- Evolution as taught in public schools is, like religion, based on faith, not based on science. Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata
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Roger Oberholtzer