On 2023-11-02 23:58, joe a wrote:

On 11/2/2023 18:27:03, joe a wrote:

I'm guessing that "sieve" is already installed as there appear to be directories containing that word in the dovecot bin locations.

Leaves me to think one only has to compile the pigeonhole plug in.

However, there is no dovecot-config file to be found anywhere.  As dovecot was an opensuse package installed via YAST leaves me at a loss. For the nonce.  Right now it is just nonsense.

/etc/dovecot/* The main configuration is in "/etc/dovecot/dovecot.conf", but you usually edit or create the files in /etc/dovecot/conf.d/ -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from openSUSE 15.5 (Laicolasse))

On 2023-11-03 02:23, joe a wrote:

On 11/2/2023 19:48:18, Carlos E. R. wrote:

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On 2023-11-02 23:58, joe a wrote:

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On 11/2/2023 18:27:03, joe a wrote:

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I'm guessing that "sieve" is already installed as there appear to be directories containing that word in the dovecot bin locations.

Leaves me to think one only has to compile the pigeonhole plug in.

However, there is no dovecot-config file to be found anywhere.  As dovecot was an opensuse package installed via YAST leaves me at a loss. For the nonce.  Right now it is just nonsense.

/etc/dovecot/*

The main configuration is in "/etc/dovecot/dovecot.conf", but you usually edit or create the files in /etc/dovecot/conf.d/

Yes, but, the file the compiler wants is actually named "dovecot-config"

You did not mention "the compiler" before. What do you want to compile and why? Then, the package you need is dovecot-devel, or some other package with "...-devel" in the name. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from openSUSE 15.5 (Laicolasse))

On 2023-11-03 03:07, joe a wrote:

On 11/2/2023 21:56:09, Carlos E. R. wrote:

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Yes, but, the file the compiler wants is actually named "dovecot-config"

You did not mention "the compiler" before.

What do you want to compile and why?

Dovecot "pigeonhole", something to, apparently, use to play with sieve scripts and such like.

There are apparently no pre builts for the opensuse dovecot package.

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Then, the package you need is dovecot-devel, or some other package with "...-devel" in the name.

Which is what I was attempting to do when YAST reported the error.

An absolutely correct message. You were attempting to use https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/server:/mail/15.5/server-mail which does not exist, and is not the same URL you tried on the browser. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from openSUSE 15.5 (Laicolasse))

* joe a [11-02-23 23:19]:

On 11/2/2023 22:31:25, Carlos E. R. wrote:

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On 2023-11-03 03:07, joe a wrote:

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On 11/2/2023 21:56:09, Carlos E. R. wrote:

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Yes, but, the file the compiler wants is actually named "dovecot-config"

You did not mention "the compiler" before.

What do you want to compile and why?

Dovecot "pigeonhole", something to, apparently, use to play with sieve scripts and such like.

There are apparently no pre builts for the opensuse dovecot package.

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Then, the package you need is dovecot-devel, or some other package with "...-devel" in the name.

Which is what I was attempting to do when YAST reported the error.

An absolutely correct message. You were attempting to use https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/server:/mail/15.5/server-mail which does not exist, and is not the same URL you tried on the browser.

Agreed, the file does not exist.

Again, "I" was not attempting to use any specific file or location. YAST was. I selected packages for installation, YAST added a few more and I told it to have at it.

Please refer to the screenshot of the YAST error to confirm for yourself that YAST could not find the file it itself was looking for.

I did not specify the URL or the rpm file YAST was looking for. That is up to YAST.

What I tried in the browser screen shot is meaningless except to confirm to myself that what it wanted was not there, to my understanding.

From my perspective it is an issue for opensuse to fix.

who exactly in the opensuse "community" is it that you expect to "fix" your problem? and when? and what renumeration will you provide for their donated work? just trying to define your expectations. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet oftc

On 2023-11-03 04:18, joe a wrote:

On 11/2/2023 22:31:25, Carlos E. R. wrote:

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On 2023-11-03 03:07, joe a wrote:

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On 11/2/2023 21:56:09, Carlos E. R. wrote:

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Which is what I was attempting to do when YAST reported the error.

An absolutely correct message. You were attempting to use https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/server:/mail/15.5/server-mail which does not exist, and is not the same URL you tried on the browser.

Agreed, the file does not exist.

Again, "I" was not attempting to use any specific file or location. YAST was.  I selected packages for installation, YAST added a few more and I told it to have at it.

Please refer to the screenshot of the YAST error to confirm for yourself that YAST could not find the file it itself was looking for.

It confirms that *you* made an error.

I did not specify the URL or the rpm file YAST was looking for.  That is up to YAST.

No.

What I tried in the browser screen shot is meaningless except to confirm to myself that what it wanted was not there, to my understanding.

From my perspective it is an issue for opensuse to fix.

No, it is your error. You yourself gave YaST the address of a repository, and you gave it badly. YaST complains that there is no repository where you told it to search. I repeat, for the last time: Run the command zypper lr --details > filename.txt in a terminal, then attach, do not paste, the file filename.txt to your answer here. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from openSUSE 15.5 (Laicolasse))

Fri, 3 Nov 2023 09:28:23 -0400 joe a :

On 11/3/2023 07:32:33, Carlos E. R. wrote:

I've used YAST for years and have NEVER had to tell it where to find a specific package, only what to install. Perhaps that is necessary in some instances, but not this one.

I have to agree, IF you have a package manager at all it should know where to get what, it should know EXACTLY and without ever making a single mistake beacause THAT is really not userspace details!

That might be useful if I had any idea what "filename.txt" should be replaced with. Perhaps you can be specific as to what that should be, based on what I have provided thus far?

that should have read zypper lr --details > whateveryouwannacallit.txt

On 2023-11-03 14:53, joe a wrote:

On 11/3/2023 09:43:55, bent fender wrote:

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Fri, 3 Nov 2023 09:28:23 -0400 joe a :

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On 11/3/2023 07:32:33, Carlos E. R. wrote:

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I've used YAST for years and have NEVER had to tell it where to find a specific package, only what to install.  Perhaps that is necessary in some instances, but not this one.

I have to agree, IF you have a package manager at all it should know where to get what, it should know EXACTLY and without ever making a single mistake beacause THAT is really not userspace details!

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That might be useful if I had any idea what "filename.txt" should be replaced with.  Perhaps you can be specific as to what that should be, based on what I have provided thus far?

that should have read

zypper lr --details > whateveryouwannacallit.txt

Ooops. Apparently I did not note the ">" in the later evening fog.  Or in the morning fog.

My apologies to all and Carlos for being dense. In that regard.

See attached:

Ok. Your repository for server:mail is wrong. You have the 15.5 version, while your other repos are configured for 15.4. You have to correct that. Notice that you did this yourself. Or the administrator of your machine if it is a different person. Also, as you have disabled refresh in some repositories, you might have problems with files not found. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from openSUSE 15.5 (Laicolasse))

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On 11/3/2023 10:38:02, Carlos E. R. wrote:

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On 2023-11-03 14:53, joe a wrote:

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On 11/3/2023 09:43:55, bent fender wrote:

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Fri, 3 Nov 2023 09:28:23 -0400 joe a :

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On 11/3/2023 07:32:33, Carlos E. R. wrote:

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I've used YAST for years and have NEVER had to tell it where to find a specific package, only what to install.  Perhaps that is necessary in some instances, but not this one.

I have to agree, IF you have a package manager at all it should know where to get what, it should know EXACTLY and without ever making a single mistake beacause THAT is really not userspace details!

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That might be useful if I had any idea what "filename.txt" should be replaced with.  Perhaps you can be specific as to what that should be, based on what I have provided thus far?

that should have read

zypper lr --details > whateveryouwannacallit.txt

Ooops. Apparently I did not note the ">" in the later evening fog.  Or in the morning fog.

My apologies to all and Carlos for being dense. In that regard.

See attached:

Ok.

Your repository for server:mail is wrong. You have the 15.5 version, while your other repos are configured for 15.4. You have to correct that.

Notice that you did this yourself. Or the administrator of your machine if it is a different person.

Also, as you have disabled refresh in some repositories, you might have problems with files not found.

Thanks. I will look into those things. To my recollection this was a fresh install from a DVD of 15.5 downloaded from an opensuse site.

Don't recall changing anything in that regard. Regardless . . . it is what it is.

if you installed 15.5, why doe you have 15.4 repos? and do not blame YaST -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet oftc

On 2023-11-03 07:58, joe a wrote: . . .

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Ok.

Your repository for server:mail is wrong. You have the 15.5 version, while your other repos are configured for 15.4. You have to correct that.

Notice that you did this yourself. Or the administrator of your machine if it is a different person.

Also, as you have disabled refresh in some repositories, you might have problems with files not found.

Thanks.  I will look into those things.  To my recollection this was a fresh install from a DVD of 15.5 downloaded from an opensuse site.

Don't recall changing anything in that regard.   Regardless . . . it is what it is.

What it is, is that /etc/os-version reports 15.4. Yet, as Carlos notes, server:mail is set to 15.5. Hmm.

I suppose the simplest thing to do might be to upgrade in place to 15.5 and hope for the best, rather than start tinkering with individual packages.

It's a VM so, backing out should be simple. Relatively.

Sadly, part way through update/upgrade to 15.5, what to my wondering eyes should appear . . . why, the same, or quite similar, error as before. With a screen shot attached, message is rejected as too large. I will attempt to describe the error again. It fails attempting to access URL "https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/server:/mail/15.5/server-mail (Medium 1)". I cannot determine if there is actually a space before (Medium 1). What does "(Medium 1)" indicate? in the URL? Can that be correct as expressed there? When preparing the upgrade I disabled deleting the server:mail repository thinking that otherwise I might have to reinstall "stuff". Was that incorrect? Currently paused at that point, unsure if I should abort, restore snapshot VM and start over, or just skip and hope for the best. I suppose any choice is OK since, well, snapshot.

On 2023-11-03 19:21, Dave Howorth wrote:

On Fri, 03 Nov 2023 12:41:42 -0400 joea-lists@j4computers.com wrote:

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On 2023-11-03 07:58, joe a wrote: . . .

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Ok.

Your repository for server:mail is wrong. You have the 15.5 version, while your other repos are configured for 15.4. You have to correct that.

Notice that you did this yourself. Or the administrator of your machine if it is a different person.

Also, as you have disabled refresh in some repositories, you might have problems with files not found.

Thanks.  I will look into those things.  To my recollection this was a fresh install from a DVD of 15.5 downloaded from an opensuse site.

Don't recall changing anything in that regard.   Regardless . . . it is what it is.

What it is, is that /etc/os-version reports 15.4. Yet, as Carlos notes, server:mail is set to 15.5. Hmm.

I suppose the simplest thing to do might be to upgrade in place to 15.5 and hope for the best, rather than start tinkering with individual packages.

It's a VM so, backing out should be simple. Relatively.

Sadly, part way through update/upgrade to 15.5, what to my wondering eyes should appear . . . why, the same, or quite similar, error as before.

With a screen shot attached, message is rejected as too large. I will attempt to describe the error again.

It fails attempting to access URL "https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/server:/mail/15.5/server-mail (Medium 1)". I cannot determine if there is actually a space before (Medium 1).

What does "(Medium 1)" indicate? in the URL? Can that be correct as expressed there? When preparing the upgrade I disabled deleting the server:mail repository thinking that otherwise I might have to reinstall "stuff". Was that incorrect?

Currently paused at that point, unsure if I should abort, restore snapshot VM and start over, or just skip and hope for the best. I suppose any choice is OK since, well, snapshot.

I would suggest that the VM is a mess, and that it's really not worth your time, and especially not worth anybody else's time, to explore how it got like that or how to get it to a sensible state.

Rather, just nuke the VM and start afresh with a new 15.5 install.

I concur. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from openSUSE 15.5 (Laicolasse))

On 2023-11-03 17:41, joea-lists@j4computers.com wrote:

On 2023-11-03 07:58, joe a wrote: . . .

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Ok.

Your repository for server:mail is wrong. You have the 15.5 version, while your other repos are configured for 15.4. You have to correct that.

Notice that you did this yourself. Or the administrator of your machine if it is a different person.

Also, as you have disabled refresh in some repositories, you might have problems with files not found.

Thanks.  I will look into those things.  To my recollection this was a fresh install from a DVD of 15.5 downloaded from an opensuse site.

Don't recall changing anything in that regard.   Regardless . . . it is what it is.

What it is, is that /etc/os-version reports 15.4.  Yet, as Carlos notes, server:mail is set to 15.5.  Hmm.

I suppose the simplest thing to do might be to upgrade in place to 15.5 and hope for the best, rather than start tinkering with individual packages.

It's a VM so, backing out should be simple.  Relatively.

Sadly, part way through update/upgrade to 15.5, what to my wondering eyes should appear . . . why, the same, or quite similar, error as before.

With a screen shot attached, message is rejected as too large.  I will attempt to describe the error again.

It fails attempting to access URL "https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/server:/mail/15.5/server-mail (Medium 1)".  I cannot determine if there is actually a space before (Medium 1).

You have refresh disabled on that repo. The information YaST has can be obsolete. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from openSUSE 15.5 (Laicolasse))

On 11/3/2023 17:29:41, joe a wrote:

On 11/3/2023 16:04:24, Carlos E. R. wrote:

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On 2023-11-03 17:41, joea-lists@j4computers.com wrote:

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On 2023-11-03 07:58, joe a wrote: . . .

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Ok.

Your repository for server:mail is wrong. You have the 15.5 version, while your other repos are configured for 15.4. You have to correct that.

Notice that you did this yourself. Or the administrator of your machine if it is a different person.

Also, as you have disabled refresh in some repositories, you might have problems with files not found.

Thanks.  I will look into those things.  To my recollection this was a fresh install from a DVD of 15.5 downloaded from an opensuse site.

Don't recall changing anything in that regard.   Regardless . . . it is what it is.

What it is, is that /etc/os-version reports 15.4.  Yet, as Carlos notes, server:mail is set to 15.5.  Hmm.

I suppose the simplest thing to do might be to upgrade in place to 15.5 and hope for the best, rather than start tinkering with individual packages.

It's a VM so, backing out should be simple.  Relatively.

Sadly, part way through update/upgrade to 15.5, what to my wondering eyes should appear . . . why, the same, or quite similar, error as before.

With a screen shot attached, message is rejected as too large.  I will attempt to describe the error again.

It fails attempting to access URL "https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/server:/mail/15.5/server-mail (Medium 1)".  I cannot determine if there is actually a space before (Medium 1).

You have refresh disabled on that repo. The information YaST has can be obsolete.

HAD refresh disabled.  Yes, I accept blame for that.  Inexperience.

I think, in the warm afterglow of . . . success . . . that sometime after I did the initial install, that is precisely what happened, repo information changed. I vaguely recall having to hack away at the URL before it was recognized. That may be why I did not enable refresh. Notes. Bah, who needs 'em? Those are for noobs, dilettantes and . . . uh . . . never mind.

On 11/3/2023 09:28:23, joe a wrote: . . .

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Run the command

   zypper lr --details > filename.txt

in a terminal, then attach, do not paste, the file filename.txt to your answer here.

That might be useful if I had any idea what "filename.txt" should be replaced with.  Perhaps you can be specific as to what that should be, based on what I have provided thus far?

My apologies for not "seeing" the "right arrow". Guess that's what comes of being a Linux Dilettante. Yeah, let's go with that one.

On 11/2/2023 19:48:36, Carlos E. R. wrote:

On 2023-11-02 23:27, joe a wrote:

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Error attempting to install packages.  Typo somewhere? The locations do not match.

The don't match because one is wrong. You told YaST to download from the wrong path ;-)

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See attached.  I forget if attachments are allowed here.  Guess I'll find out.

Small ones.

I did not explicitly tell YAST anything along those lines, only selected the packages listed, that it knew about. It went out to get them all by itself. Out of my control.

On 11/2/2023 21:59:31, Carlos E. R. wrote:

On 2023-11-03 02:26, joe a wrote:

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On 11/2/2023 19:48:36, Carlos E. R. wrote:

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On 2023-11-02 23:27, joe a wrote:

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Error attempting to install packages.  Typo somewhere? The locations do not match.

The don't match because one is wrong. You told YaST to download from the wrong path ;-)

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See attached.  I forget if attachments are allowed here.  Guess I'll find out.

Small ones.

I did not explicitly tell YAST anything along those lines, only selected the packages listed, that it knew about.

It went out to get them all by itself.  Out of my control.

Why don't you start again, telling us what is you want to achieve, and how you are attempting it?

I posted that earlier in another thread. But thought it irrelevant as what I was trying to do seemed to be a problem with YAST and repositories. Regardless, want to implement "sieve" in Dovecot. That may already "be there" in my existing dovecot as provided by opensuse. I got a bit befuddled when reading and found "pigeonhole" but now see, or think, it is a means of interacting with sieve. It does not appear to be something opensuse provides and apparently needs to be compiled. Could be I am completely wrong.

You want to install what?

Sieve/pigeonhole for dovecot

You want to compile what? And why?

Dovecot-pigeonhole

You have what repos?

? I downloaded the version of dovecot-pigeonhole that is claimed to be for the version of dovecot I have. I have no "repos" as such.

zypper lr --details > filename.txt

And then attach, do not paste, the file filename.txt to your answer here.

I do not know what you are referring to there. All I am trying to do at this point is to, using YAST, install the packages apparently required to allow dovecot-pigeonhole to compile. That is where YAST gave me those errors. What YAST is trying to download apparently does not exist.

On 11/2/2023 19:48:36, Carlos E. R. wrote:

On 2023-11-02 23:27, joe a wrote:

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Error attempting to install packages.  Typo somewhere? The locations . . . See attached.  I forget if attachments are allowed here.  Guess I'll find out.

Small ones.

That's what she said . . .

On 11/2/2023 23:10:52, Masaru Nomiya wrote:

Hello,

In the Message;

Subject : Error using YAST to install package Message-ID : <79cb151b-0b2d-45f4-9f96-73914014865a@j4computers.com> Date & Time: Thu, 2 Nov 2023 18:27:03 -0400

[JOE] == joe a has written:

JOE> [1 ] JOE> Error attempting to install packages. Typo somewhere? The locations do not JOE> match.

JOE> See attached. I forget if attachments are allowed here. Guess I'll find out. JOE> [2 repo.PNG ]

JOE> [3 YAST-err.PNG ]

Please show the result of:

$ cat /var/cache/zypp/geoip.d/download.opensuse.org

. . . The results are: cdn.opensuse.org

On 11/4/2023 08:09:39, Masaru Nomiya wrote:

Hello,

In the Message;

Subject : Re: Error using YAST to install package Message-ID : Date & Time: Fri, 3 Nov 2023 09:14:20 -0400

[Joe] == joe a has written:

Joe> On 11/2/2023 23:10:52, Masaru Nomiya wrote: [...] MN> > Please show the result of: MN> > MN> > $ cat /var/cache/zypp/geoip.d/download.opensuse.org

Joe> The results are: cdn.opensuse.org

Thanks.

The same is true in my case, but the entity is mirrorcache-jp.opensuse,org.

Since last fall, the connection with YaST2 has been slow and some repositories fail to load more often than others, so when a failure occurs, I use the following method;

1. change the openvpn connection server to a server in the US (I usually use a server in Japan). or, 2. change 'cdn.opensuse.org' to 'mirrorcache-us.opensuse.org'

To find out which openSUSE's server of your YaST2 is using, you can do the following;

$ wget https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/server:/mail/15.5/x86_64/dovecot2...

In my case:

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$ wget https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/server:/mail/15.5/x86_64/dovecot2...

--2023-11-04 20:48:56-- https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/server:/mail/15.5/x86_64/dovecot2...

Resolving download.opensuse.org (download.opensuse.org)... 195.135.221.134, 2001:67c:2178:8::13

Connecting to download.opensuse.org (download.opensuse.org)|195.135.221.134|:443... connected.

HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 302 Found

Location: https://mirrorcache-jp.opensuse.org/repositories/server:/mail/15.5/x86_64/do... [following]

--2023-11-04 20:48:57-- https://mirrorcache-jp.opensuse.org/repositories/server:/mail/15.5/x86_64/do...

Resolving mirrorcache-jp.opensuse.org (mirrorcache-jp.opensuse.org)... 139.162.108.149, 2400:8902::f03c:93ff:fec8:af18

Connecting to mirrorcache-jp.opensuse.org (mirrorcache-jp.opensuse.org)|139.162.108.149|:443... connected.

HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 302 Found

Location: https://mirror-jp.firstyear.id.au/repositories/server:/mail/15.5/x86_64/dove... [following]

--2023-11-04 20:48:57-- https://mirror-jp.firstyear.id.au/repositories/server:/mail/15.5/x86_64/dove...

Resolving mirror-jp.firstyear.id.au (mirror-jp.firstyear.id.au)... 139.162.108.7, 2400:8902::f03c:93ff:fec8:afa1

Connecting to mirror-jp.firstyear.id.au (mirror-jp.firstyear.id.au)|139.162.108.7|:443... connected.

HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK

Length: 5252516 (5.0M) [application/x-redhat-package-manager].

Saving to: 'dovecot23-2.0.0.0.0.0.0.0. 'dovecot23-2.3.21-lp155.125.4.x86_64.rpm.1'

dovecot23-2.3.21-lp 100%[===================>] 5.01M --.-KB/s in 0.08s

2023-11-04 20:48:57 (60.6 MB/s) - 'dovecot23-2.3.21-lp155.125.4.x86_64.rpm' saved [5252516/5252516].

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This indicates that the mirrorcache-jp.opensuse.org entity is

https://mirror-jp.firstyear.id.au/

and that this server is causing frequent problems.

I have filed this report, but the situation has not improved at all.

But your YaST2 uses a mirror site in the U.S. ...... (_ _?

Best Regards & Good Night.

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Sorry I missed responding to this. Thanks for the details. My problem turned out to be, mostly, a misconfiguration on my part. I had refresh disabled for that repo. I believe that happened when I first enabled the repo and had to "hack" the URL to get it to work due to, perhaps, a typo in the published URL. When that changed, or was corrected, it no longer worked for me. Allowing YAST to refresh it solved the immediate issue for me. Thank you for your efforts. joe a.