[opensuse] Experimenting with kde 4.2.2/dual head/Impress 3.0.0
All, I've got a Dell Inspiron 1525 that I use for presentations. I want to start using Linux to give them. I like using a dual head setup where the slides are on the projector, and speaker notes/etc. are on the laptop screen. I think Impress will support this. Not sure about kde 4.2.2 I've gone into sax2 and enabled Xinerama mode in a side by side config. The projector is now to the right of my laptop screen logically. ie. If I move my mouse off the right hand edge of the laptop screen, it appears on the projector. When I launch Impress and select slide show settings, the multiple screens pull-down is grayed out. :( If I start a slide show, the slides are on the projector, but they are not synced with the main Impress window. :( Am I asking too much from kde 4.2.2? Greg -- Greg Freemyer Head of EDD Tape Extraction and Processing team Litigation Triage Solutions Specialist http://www.linkedin.com/in/gregfreemyer First 99 Days Litigation White Paper - http://www.norcrossgroup.com/forms/whitepapers/99%20Days%20whitepaper.pdf The Norcross Group The Intersection of Evidence & Technology http://www.norcrossgroup.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 5:40 PM, Greg Freemyer <greg.freemyer@gmail.com> wrote:
Am I asking too much from kde 4.2.2?
the fact that you got xinerama mode to work is amazing ... I have been unable to make that work on 3 different laptops in the last 3 or 4 years using several flavors of SUSE linux. It sucks to not be able to use my main laptop when I need to do a preso -- which is fairly often these days. It's why I have to keep a windows boot around, so that when I need to I can easily do this. Sounds to me like KDE has made some major strides ... and the problem is very likely that Impress does not integrate yet with KDE 4.2.2 and thus has problems ... P -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
I like using a dual head setup where the slides are on the projector, and speaker notes/etc. are on the laptop screen.
I think Impress will support this. Not sure about kde 4.2.2
Have you installed the extension for this? http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/project/presenter-screen C. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Clayton wrote:
I like using a dual head setup where the slides are on the projector, and speaker notes/etc. are on the laptop screen.
I think Impress will support this. Not sure about kde 4.2.2
Have you installed the extension for this? http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/project/presenter-screen
Hi Greg, better install the OpenOffice_org-impress-extensions package; that's easier and more likely to work. HTH, -- Thorsten -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 4:25 AM, Thorsten Behrens <thb@openoffice.org> wrote:
Clayton wrote:
I like using a dual head setup where the slides are on the projector, and speaker notes/etc. are on the laptop screen.
I think Impress will support this. Not sure about kde 4.2.2
Have you installed the extension for this? http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/project/presenter-screen
Hi Greg,
better install the OpenOffice_org-impress-extensions package; that's easier and more likely to work.
HTH,
-- Thorsten
I already had that installed with OO 3.0.0.6 and it wasn't working. I upgraded to the unstable 3.1 beta 2 release. Now working like a charm. http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/OpenOffice.org:/UNSTABLE/ And yes, this is KDE 4.2.2. No idea if it works with KDE 3.5 or not. Greg -- Greg Freemyer Head of EDD Tape Extraction and Processing team Litigation Triage Solutions Specialist http://www.linkedin.com/in/gregfreemyer First 99 Days Litigation White Paper - http://www.norcrossgroup.com/forms/whitepapers/99%20Days%20whitepaper.pdf The Norcross Group The Intersection of Evidence & Technology http://www.norcrossgroup.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
One more question unrelated to Impress. When I connect up to the projector, X / KDE is not auto-detecting the extra screen until I logout. Thus I would like to have a way to force X and/or KDE to detect the projector and reconfig itself. Is this possible: from KDM login screen? after being logged into KDE 4.2.2? As I said, currently it only autodetects on logout from KDE. So if I'm sitting at the KDM, I have to connect up the projector, login, then logout, and login a second time. At which point I have a dual screen capability. Thanks Greg -- Greg Freemyer Head of EDD Tape Extraction and Processing team Litigation Triage Solutions Specialist http://www.linkedin.com/in/gregfreemyer First 99 Days Litigation White Paper - http://www.norcrossgroup.com/forms/whitepapers/99%20Days%20whitepaper.pdf The Norcross Group The Intersection of Evidence & Technology http://www.norcrossgroup.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Wednesday 15 April 2009 19:55:56 Greg Freemyer wrote:
When I connect up to the projector, X / KDE is not auto-detecting the extra screen until I logout.
Thus I would like to have a way to force X and/or KDE to detect the projector and reconfig itself.
Is this possible:
from KDM login screen?
after being logged into KDE 4.2.2?
As I said, currently it only autodetects on logout from KDE. So if I'm sitting at the KDM, I have to connect up the projector, login, then logout, and login a second time. At which point I have a dual screen capability.
Yes, it's definitely possible (even with 4.1.3 on 11.1). A KDED module (kephal) watches for XRANDR events indicating that a monitor or projector was hotplugged and pops up a dialog shortly after the cable was connected asking if your desktop should be extended onto the new screen. The catch is that driver support for XRANDR events is patchy at best. nvidia binary is probably the worst since it only supports xrandr 1.1. I know it works nicely on intel 945GM on 11.1 because I presented in exactly this way with 11.1 at FOSDEM in February (satisfyingly, a GNOME colleague uttered a surprised "KDE can do /that/?!). Does 'xrandr' show the projector after hotplug (but before logout)? Does 'qdbus org.kde.kded /modules/kephal/Screens org.kde.Kephal.Screens.numScreens' reflect the number of connected displays? HTH Will
On Thursday 16 April 2009 16:24:54 Will Stephenson wrote:
On Wednesday 15 April 2009 19:55:56 Greg Freemyer wrote:
When I connect up to the projector, X / KDE is not auto-detecting the extra screen until I logout.
Thus I would like to have a way to force X and/or KDE to detect the projector and reconfig itself.
Is this possible:
from KDM login screen?
after being logged into KDE 4.2.2?
As I said, currently it only autodetects on logout from KDE. So if I'm sitting at the KDM, I have to connect up the projector, login, then logout, and login a second time. At which point I have a dual screen capability.
Yes, it's definitely possible (even with 4.1.3 on 11.1). A KDED module (kephal) watches for XRANDR events indicating that a monitor or projector was hotplugged and pops up a dialog shortly after the cable was connected asking if your desktop should be extended onto the new screen.
The catch is that driver support for XRANDR events is patchy at best. nvidia binary is probably the worst since it only supports xrandr 1.1. I know it works nicely on intel 945GM on 11.1 because I presented in exactly this way with 11.1 at FOSDEM in February (satisfyingly, a GNOME colleague uttered a surprised "KDE can do /that/?!).
Does 'xrandr' show the projector after hotplug (but before logout)?
Does 'qdbus org.kde.kded /modules/kephal/Screens org.kde.Kephal.Screens.numScreens' reflect the number of connected displays?
After a bit of digging in the kephal code I see that there is a polling mode where it periodically (10s) polls the X server for new screens. I tried it out briefly with nvidia but neither xrandr nor kephal noticed the new screen, so blame the broken closed source driver, but you can try it out in 4.2.2 with: qdbus org.kde.kded /Configurations setPolling true In trunk the dbus object path has been corrected to /modules/kephal/Configurations Allegedly polling is off by default as on some hardware the driver handles the poll so slowly that it makes X stutter every 10s. If it works for you, I suggest rolling up a setPolling call with a sleep and a setPolling false once the new monitor is detected, reference that script in a .desktop file and you can activate a few seconds of polling manually. HTH Will
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On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 10:24 AM, Will Stephenson <wstephenson@suse.de> wrote:
On Wednesday 15 April 2009 19:55:56 Greg Freemyer wrote:
When I connect up to the projector, X / KDE is not auto-detecting the extra screen until I logout.
Thus I would like to have a way to force X and/or KDE to detect the projector and reconfig itself.
Is this possible:
from KDM login screen?
after being logged into KDE 4.2.2?
As I said, currently it only autodetects on logout from KDE. So if I'm sitting at the KDM, I have to connect up the projector, login, then logout, and login a second time. At which point I have a dual screen capability.
Yes, it's definitely possible (even with 4.1.3 on 11.1). A KDED module (kephal) watches for XRANDR events indicating that a monitor or projector was hotplugged and pops up a dialog shortly after the cable was connected asking if your desktop should be extended onto the new screen.
The catch is that driver support for XRANDR events is patchy at best. nvidia binary is probably the worst since it only supports xrandr 1.1. I know it works nicely on intel 945GM on 11.1 because I presented in exactly this way with 11.1 at FOSDEM in February (satisfyingly, a GNOME colleague uttered a surprised "KDE can do /that/?!).
I have a Intel 965GM, so hopefully we can make it work.
Does 'xrandr' show the projector after hotplug (but before logout)?
Yes Running xrandr with the projector Disconnected Screen 0: minimum 320 x 200, current 1024 x 768, maximum 3840 x 1200 VGA disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) LVDS connected 1024x768+0+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 331mm x 207mm 1024x768 60.0*+ 1280x800 60.0 + 800x600 60.3 56.2 640x480 59.9 TMDS-1 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) TV disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) Running xrandr with the projector Connected Screen 0: minimum 320 x 200, current 1024 x 768, maximum 3840 x 1200 VGA connected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 1280x800 60.0 + 58.9 1280x960 60.0 1280x768 60.0 58.9 1280x720 60.0 58.8 1024x768 60.0 60.0 58.8 1280x600 60.0 58.9 1024x600 60.0 58.7 800x600 60.3 60.0 56.2 58.7 768x576 60.0 58.6 640x480 59.9 LVDS connected 1024x768+0+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 331mm x 207mm 1024x768 60.0*+ 1280x800 60.0 + 800x600 60.3 56.2 640x480 59.9 TMDS-1 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) TV disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis)
Does 'qdbus org.kde.kded /modules/kephal/Screens org.kde.Kephal.Screens.numScreens' reflect the number of connected displays?
As root from a console I tried: qdbus org.kde.kded /modules/kephal/Screens org.kde.Kephal.Screens.numScreens It never came back. dmesg | tail did not show anything interesting. cntrl-C did kill it.
HTH
Will
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On Thursday 16 April 2009 23:20:48 Greg Freemyer wrote:
As root from a console I tried:
qdbus org.kde.kded /modules/kephal/Screens org.kde.Kephal.Screens.numScreens
It never came back. dmesg | tail did not show anything interesting.
cntrl-C did kill it.
Try just "qdbus org.kde.kded /Screens org.kde.Kephal.Screens.numScreens" in KDE 4.2. Will -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 2:59 AM, Will Stephenson <wstephenson@suse.de> wrote:
On Thursday 16 April 2009 23:20:48 Greg Freemyer wrote:
As root from a console I tried:
qdbus org.kde.kded /modules/kephal/Screens org.kde.Kephal.Screens.numScreens
It never came back. dmesg | tail did not show anything interesting.
cntrl-C did kill it.
Try just "qdbus org.kde.kded /Screens org.kde.Kephal.Screens.numScreens" in KDE 4.2.
It's one both with the projector disconnected and with it connected. Obviously that's wrong. Greg -- Greg Freemyer Head of EDD Tape Extraction and Processing team Litigation Triage Solutions Specialist http://www.linkedin.com/in/gregfreemyer First 99 Days Litigation White Paper - http://www.norcrossgroup.com/forms/whitepapers/99%20Days%20whitepaper.pdf The Norcross Group The Intersection of Evidence & Technology http://www.norcrossgroup.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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