David C. Rankin wrote:

This will fix it

sudo rpm -e $(rpm -qa | grep beagle) kerry && rm -r ~/.beagle

Almost. You still need to "sudo rm -r /var/cache/beagle", which takes up ~60MB of disk space even after beagle was uninstalled. And kill the already running beagle processes, because uninstalling beagle does not shut down the demon. See bug #327042 [1]. Regards nordi https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=327042 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Philipp Thomas a écrit :

* nordi (nordi@addcom.de) [20080210 12:09]:

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Almost. You still need to "sudo rm -r /var/cache/beagle", which takes up ~60MB of disk space even after beagle was uninstalled. And kill the already running beagle processes,

Both won't be necessary anymore in the future as I just fixed it for factory :) If I get the OK, I'll also check in the same fix for 10.3. As you can see from that bug, I

Philipp

I don't know if it's possible, but it should be also usefull to ask the user if he want the beagle index (~/.beagle) to be deleted (2Gb just deleted on my disk, with more than 200000 files!!) jdd -- http://www.dodin.net -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Philipp Thomas wrote:

* nordi (nordi@addcom.de) [20080210 12:09]:

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Almost. You still need to "sudo rm -r /var/cache/beagle", which takes up ~60MB of disk space even after beagle was uninstalled. And kill the already running beagle processes,

Both won't be necessary anymore in the future as I just fixed it for factory :) If I get the OK, I'll also check in the same fix for 10.3. As you can see from that bug, I

Just out of curiousity, can you describe the fix? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On Tue, 12 Feb 2008 10:20:51 -0500, Aaron Kulkis wrote:

Just out of curiousity, can you describe the fix?

Just a change in beagle.spec: --------------------------------- %preun %stop_on_removal %postun test $1 eq 0 && rm -rf /var/cache/beagle -------------------------------- You'll find the definition of stop_on_removal in /usr/lib/rpm/suse_macros. For the postun line you have to know that rpm passes the number of instances as $1, so if it's 0, you're deleting the last package instance and thus the cache can go. Philipp -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Aaron Kulkis wrote:

David C. Rankin wrote:

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Carl Spitzer wrote:

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Seems in addition to wasting CPU resources its a drive hog. So I put in a warning line in dot bashrc

du ./.beagle/ -ch | tail

so each time i open a konsole I get a read on how much waste.

Perhaps if it were redeveloped not as a daeman but as a stand alone we could control with cron it would be more useful.

This is absolutely ridiculous. That's nearly 20% of the / partition wasted on the dreaded_dog.

835M ./.beagle/ 835M total 23:11 Rankin-P35a~>

In other news, an American Beagle won Best in Show at the Westminster (New York) Kennel Club Dog Show for the first time in the over 100+ year history of their competitions.

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This will fix it

sudo rpm -e $(rpm -qa | grep beagle) kerry && rm -r ~/.beagle

In other news, there is growing concern that the increase in popularity of Beagles following Best in Show win will result in an increase of Beagles being returned to animal shelters as their owners find they are not able to bond with the animals or tolerate the dogs characteristic baying which will result in increase euthanasia of the canines using a new euthanasia cocktail labeled "rpm -e". -- David C. Rankin, J.D., P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On Sat, 2008-02-09 at 23:15 -0600, David C. Rankin wrote:

Carl Spitzer wrote:

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Seems in addition to wasting CPU resources its a drive hog. So I put in a warning line in dot bashrc

du ./.beagle/ -ch | tail

so each time i open a konsole I get a read on how much waste.

Perhaps if it were redeveloped not as a daeman but as a stand alone we could control with cron it would be more useful.

This is absolutely ridiculous. That's nearly 20% of the / partition wasted on the dreaded_dog.

835M ./.beagle/ 835M total 23:11 Rankin-P35a~>

This will fix it

sudo rpm -e $(rpm -qa | grep beagle) kerry && rm -r ~/.beagle <snip>

This begs the question if anyone finds beagle useful and actually uses it. I have found that the hard disk shows a lot of activity when beagle runs. I either remove it when installing or first thing post install. Could fellow list members indicate if they find beagle useful or not? Regards. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On Feb 17, 2008, at 2:08 PM, Sudhir wrote:

On Sat, 2008-02-09 at 23:15 -0600, David C. Rankin wrote:

...

Carl Spitzer wrote:

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Seems in addition to wasting CPU resources its a drive hog. So I put in a warning line in dot bashrc

du ./.beagle/ -ch | tail

so each time i open a konsole I get a read on how much waste.

Perhaps if it were redeveloped not as a daeman but as a stand alone we could control with cron it would be more useful.

This is absolutely ridiculous. That's nearly 20% of the / partition wasted on the dreaded_dog.

835M ./.beagle/ 835M total 23:11 Rankin-P35a~>

This will fix it

sudo rpm -e $(rpm -qa | grep beagle) kerry && rm -r ~/.beagle <snip>

This begs the question if anyone finds beagle useful and actually uses it. I have found that the hard disk shows a lot of activity when beagle runs.

I either remove it when installing or first thing post install.

Could fellow list members indicate if they find beagle useful or not?

Regards.

This is probably not a question that should be asked, as the last time it was it resulted in a thread that lived on for three months ;-) Yes, I find Beagle immensely useful. Most average users find Beagle immensely useful. The list members here, however, seem to not find Beagle as useful. -- Kevin "Yo" Dupuy | Public Mail: Hope for America: Ron Paul for President -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On Feb 17, 2008 7:47 PM, Kevin Dupuy wrote:

Yes, I find Beagle immensely useful. Most average users find Beagle immensely useful.

[citation needed] -- ----------JSA--------- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On Monday 18 February 2008, John Andersen wrote:

On Feb 17, 2008 7:47 PM, Kevin Dupuy wrote:

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Yes, I find Beagle immensely useful. Most average users find Beagle immensely useful.

[citation needed]

It's a hear no evil, see no evil, speak no evil situation. I don't personally know a *single* experienced Linux user who hasn't uninstalled or disabled it after figuring out that it's to blame for various problems (constant disk grinding, random cpu spikes, enormous cache directories, etc.). What makes me mad are the uninformed people trying Linux who "learn" that "Linux" has all these problems when it's really just one poorly behaved add-on. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Mike writes:

I don't personally know a *single* experienced Linux user who hasn't uninstalled or disabled it after figuring out that it's to blame for various problems (constant disk grinding, random cpu spikes, enormous cache directories, etc.).

I disabled it after experiencing how dog slow and resource hogging it is. However, I do index some of my files. For email I use mairix: http://www.rpcurnow.force9.co.uk/mairix/ For my working files and library, I use Namazu: http://www.namazu.org/ This is all done through cron jobs. Charles

Charles philip Chan wrote:

Mike writes:

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I don't personally know a *single* experienced Linux user who hasn't uninstalled or disabled it after figuring out that it's to blame for various problems (constant disk grinding, random cpu spikes, enormous cache directories, etc.).

I disabled it after experiencing how dog slow and resource hogging it is. However, I do index some of my files. For email I use mairix:

http://www.rpcurnow.force9.co.uk/mairix/

For my working files and library, I use Namazu:

http://www.namazu.org/

This is all done through cron jobs.

How is that working for you? [Yes, I'm genuinely curious] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Mike wrote:

On Monday 18 February 2008, John Andersen wrote:

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On Feb 17, 2008 7:47 PM, Kevin Dupuy wrote:

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Yes, I find Beagle immensely useful. Most average users find Beagle immensely useful. [citation needed]

It's a hear no evil, see no evil, speak no evil situation. I don't personally know a *single* experienced Linux user who hasn't uninstalled or disabled it after figuring out that it's to blame for various problems (constant disk grinding, random cpu spikes, enormous cache directories, etc.).

What makes me mad are the uninformed people trying Linux who "learn" that "Linux" has all these problems when it's really just one poorly behaved add-on.

The dog needs to be kept in a kennel until it can demonstrate that it is fully house-trained. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Sudhir wrote:

On Sat, 2008-02-09 at 23:15 -0600, David C. Rankin wrote:

...

Carl Spitzer wrote:

...

Seems in addition to wasting CPU resources its a drive hog. So I put in a warning line in dot bashrc

du ./.beagle/ -ch | tail

so each time i open a konsole I get a read on how much waste.

Perhaps if it were redeveloped not as a daeman but as a stand alone we could control with cron it would be more useful.

This is absolutely ridiculous. That's nearly 20% of the / partition wasted on the dreaded_dog.

835M ./.beagle/ 835M total 23:11 Rankin-P35a~>

This will fix it

sudo rpm -e $(rpm -qa | grep beagle) kerry && rm -r ~/.beagle <snip>

This begs the question if anyone finds beagle useful and actually uses it. I have found that the hard disk shows a lot of activity when beagle runs.

I either remove it when installing or first thing post install.

Could fellow list members indicate if they find beagle useful or not?

Since i name my directories and files for the contents contained within them... I do not. People who have a home directory full of file names like: "paper4" and "homeworkabc" probably need beagle.

Regards.

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On Sunday 17 February 2008 13:35, Sudhir wrote:

This begs the question if anyone finds beagle useful and actually uses it. I have found that the hard disk shows a lot of activity when beagle runs.

I either remove it when installing or first thing post install.

Could fellow list members indicate if they find beagle useful or not?

Regards.

Say you go to conference and get an CD/DVD full of abstracts/papers in pdf form, and you want to find all of the occurrences of topic X or individual Y. (This applies to any collection of pdf files. I have pdf files of about 17 issues of the short-lived TUX magazine. I've glanced through them at one point and there were a few interesting topics covered, but I don't remember specifically which issue contained which article.) Say you download an archive of one or more of the suse lists and you want to find messages on a particular topic. Beagle can index the CONTENT of these files and the search becomes easy. I'm not sure how one would achieve this with 'locate', 'grep', etc. So yes, beagle has its uses. -- Don -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

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This is absolutely ridiculous. That's nearly 20% of the / partition wasted on the dreaded_dog.

This begs the question if anyone finds beagle useful and actually uses it. I have found that the hard disk shows a lot of activity when beagle runs.

I either remove it when installing or first thing post install.

Could fellow list members indicate if they find beagle useful or not?

I dont use it for indexing my homedirectory because I mostly know where things are, super-organized and all. But I need to use it for keeping track of my emails (e.g. this ML gets an insane number of emails per day), browsing history, quick search of documentation and apps and some other stuff. So it depends on what you are looking for. If you rarely need to search for anything or search only for files based on their names, then you are better off using m/s/locate. As for the problems listed above and elsewhere, they are after all bugs and not features. Bugs always get fixed. - dBera -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Jerry Houston wrote:

David C. Rankin wrote:

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This will fix it

sudo rpm -e $(rpm -qa | grep beagle) kerry && rm -r ~/.beagle

I started with that, but this is as far as I got:

error: Failed dependencies: libbeagle.so.0 is needed by (installed) yelp-2.18.1-52.i586 libbeagle.so.0 is needed by (installed) brasero-0.6.1-23.i586 libbeagle.so.0 is needed by (installed) nautilus-2.20.0-5.2.i586 libbeagle >= 0.2.0 is needed by (installed) yelp-2.18.1-52.i586

So apparently I need to uninstall those other applications first?

No, you should leave libbeagle installed, to satisfy the dependencies - the lib by itself can't cause any mischief. Joe -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Jerry Houston wrote:

Joe Sloan wrote:

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error: Failed dependencies: libbeagle.so.0 is needed by (installed) yelp-2.18.1-52.i586 libbeagle.so.0 is needed by (installed) brasero-0.6.1-23.i586 libbeagle.so.0 is needed by (installed) nautilus-2.20.0-5.2.i586 libbeagle >= 0.2.0 is needed by (installed) yelp-2.18.1-52.i586

So apparently I need to uninstall those other applications first?

No, you should leave libbeagle installed, to satisfy the dependencies - the lib by itself can't cause any mischief.

Thanks. I interpreted those messages to mean that nothing was done, because of the dependencies. So they mean that everything else was actually removed, but libbeagle.so was left behind because it's needed elsewhere?

No, it most likely means nothing was removed. re-run the command without including libbeagle in the list of things to remove. Joe -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Per Jessen wrote:

Carl Spitzer wrote:

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Perhaps if it were redeveloped not as a daeman but as a stand alone we could control with cron it would be more useful.

I think the key question is - what functionality does it provide that you really, really need? If it provides something really useful,

And there you have the crux of the matter.... -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org