I've recently switched from suse 9.0 to 9.1 and I experience two usb related problems. 1) Automounting USB flash drive ("key") when I plug in the key disk gets auto mounted and creates an entry in /etc/mtab but not /etc/fstab! -- "/etc/mtab": /dev/sda1 /media/usb-storage-odd-CANYONUSB20Disk-USBMassStorageDevice:0:0:0p1 subfs rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,sync,fs=floppyfss,procuid 0 0 -- "mount" says: /dev/sda1 on /media/usb-storage-odd-CANYONUSB20Disk-USBMassStorageDevice:0:0:0p1 type subfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,sync,fs=floppyfss,procuid) problem is that I cannot umount /dev/sda1 as normal user: > umount /dev/sda1 umount: /dev/sda1 is not in the fstab (and you are not root) 2) USB 2.0 possible error? on my old computer (with just usb 1.1) my usb hub (on LG1710B) worked perfectly, it had usb mouse and a wacom tablet connectedd now on my new computer (epox 8rda+, 6 usb port, 4back, 2 front) if I plug the hub (and mouse in it...) the hub stops working after some time (app 10 minutes), also the front 2 usb don't work correctly or at all when the hub is connected. USBview says (my comment in ""): EHCI Host Controller "2.0" USB Embedded Hub "usb flash drive" OHCI Host Controller "1.1" hub OHCI Host Controller USB-PS/2 optical mouse ET-04... "wacom tablet" It seem system recognizes devices correctly but fails after some time?!? Thank you in advance.
-- Craig Altenburg On May 17, 2004, at 10:50 AM, Ales Jagodnik wrote:
I've recently switched from suse 9.0 to 9.1 and I experience two usb related problems.
1) Automounting USB flash drive ("key") when I plug in the key disk gets auto mounted and creates an entry in /etc/mtab but not /etc/fstab!
-- "/etc/mtab": /dev/sda1 /media/usb-storage-odd-CANYONUSB20Disk-USBMassStorageDevice:0:0:0p1 subfs rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,sync,fs=floppyfss,procuid 0 0
-- "mount" says: /dev/sda1 on /media/usb-storage-odd-CANYONUSB20Disk-USBMassStorageDevice:0:0:0p1 type subfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,sync,fs=floppyfss,procuid)
problem is that I cannot umount /dev/sda1 as normal user: > umount /dev/sda1 umount: /dev/sda1 is not in the fstab (and you are not root)
My understanding with the new subfs you don't need to unmount it. When you plug it in you will see an icon for it in the "My computer" window. You can use the "eject" function from the "right button" menu to make sure any writes are complete.
Exactly this is the problem, I cannot do this as a normal user (from console or by right-clicking the icon in Mycomputer or Desktop). I have to log in as root (su) and manually umount /dev/sda1. I am afraid that not unmounting the device would corrupt data (as in Windows without ejecting device). I guess "sync" option helps a bit?!? Thanks. Craig Altenburg wrote:
-- Craig Altenburg On May 17, 2004, at 10:50 AM, Ales Jagodnik wrote:
I've recently switched from suse 9.0 to 9.1 and I experience two usb related problems.
1) Automounting USB flash drive ("key") when I plug in the key disk gets auto mounted and creates an entry in /etc/mtab but not /etc/fstab!
-- "/etc/mtab": /dev/sda1 /media/usb-storage-odd-CANYONUSB20Disk-USBMassStorageDevice:0:0:0p1 subfs rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,sync,fs=floppyfss,procuid 0 0
-- "mount" says: /dev/sda1 on /media/usb-storage-odd-CANYONUSB20Disk-USBMassStorageDevice:0:0:0p1 type subfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,sync,fs=floppyfss,procuid)
problem is that I cannot umount /dev/sda1 as normal user: > umount /dev/sda1 umount: /dev/sda1 is not in the fstab (and you are not root)
My understanding with the new subfs you don't need to unmount it. When you plug it in you will see an icon for it in the "My computer" window. You can use the "eject" function from the "right button" menu to make sure any writes are complete.
On Monday May 17 2004 11:30 am, Ales Jagodnik wrote:
Exactly this is the problem, I cannot do this as a normal user (from console or by right-clicking the icon in Mycomputer or Desktop). I have to log in as root (su) and manually umount /dev/sda1.
I am afraid that not unmounting the device would corrupt data (as in Windows without ejecting device). I guess "sync" option helps a bit?!?
I doubt that you will corrupt any data! I've had 9.1 running for over a week now, and have extracted uncounted images taken from my SanDisk Ultra II cards with NO problems. NO, I don't mount and unmount. 'Works perfectly. Fred -- "The only secure Microsoft software is what's still shrink-wrapped in their warehouse..." (Forno)
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 17 May 2004 11:09, Fred Miller wrote:
On Monday May 17 2004 11:30 am, Ales Jagodnik wrote:
Exactly this is the problem, I cannot do this as a normal user (from console or by right-clicking the icon in Mycomputer or Desktop). I have to log in as root (su) and manually umount /dev/sda1.
I am afraid that not unmounting the device would corrupt data (as in Windows without ejecting device). I guess "sync" option helps a bit?!?
I doubt that you will corrupt any data! I've had 9.1 running for over a week now, and have extracted uncounted images taken from my SanDisk Ultra II cards with NO problems. NO, I don't mount and unmount. 'Works perfectly.
Fred
-- "The only secure Microsoft software is what's still shrink-wrapped in their warehouse..." (Forno) My problem is that I have to manually mount. Is that because the card remains in the slot when I shut down/boot?
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On Monday May 17 2004 1:46 pm, C Hamel wrote: [snip]
I doubt that you will corrupt any data! I've had 9.1 running for over a week now, and have extracted uncounted images taken from my SanDisk Ultra II cards with NO problems. NO, I don't mount and unmount. 'Works perfectly.
Fred
-- "The only secure Microsoft software is what's still shrink-wrapped in their warehouse..." (Forno)
My problem is that I have to manually mount. Is that because the card remains in the slot when I shut down/boot?
No, I don't think so. The "change" in 9.1 is that submount works for all users by default. The only "user" who can mount unmount is root, or so it has been for all of the installs I've done so far. 'Outta get a commission for all the copies users have bought on my recommendation......at least a shirt!! :) Fred -- "The only secure Microsoft software is what's still shrink-wrapped in their warehouse..." (Forno)
if I understood correctly, subfs mounts /media/* when there is need (for example ls /media/*), writes all data (sync), then "sort of unmounts" (all writes completed)? is it similar as with floppy? i have IDE floppy set up as subfs, but I still unmount it before "ejecting" it. is there no need to umount usb media /or IDE floppy (as root)? Thanks for your replies. Ales
On Monday May 17 2004 1:46 pm, C Hamel wrote:
On Monday 17 May 2004 11:09, Fred Miller wrote:
On Monday May 17 2004 11:30 am, Ales Jagodnik wrote:
Exactly this is the problem, I cannot do this as a normal user (from console or by right-clicking the icon in Mycomputer or Desktop). I have to log in as root (su) and manually umount /dev/sda1.
I am afraid that not unmounting the device would corrupt data (as in Windows without ejecting device). I guess "sync" option helps a bit?!?
I doubt that you will corrupt any data! I've had 9.1 running for over a week now, and have extracted uncounted images taken from my SanDisk Ultra II cards with NO problems. NO, I don't mount and unmount. 'Works perfectly.
Fred
-- "The only secure Microsoft software is what's still shrink-wrapped in their warehouse..." (Forno)
My problem is that I have to manually mount. Is that because the card remains in the slot when I shut down/boot?
'Could be, however, I leave a card in my reader at all times. Fred -- "The only secure Microsoft software is what's still shrink-wrapped in their warehouse..." (Forno)
I forgot to mention that after 10 minutes usbview reports there is no usb hub connected.
Add the user option in the fstab On Mon, 2004-05-17 at 07:50, Ales Jagodnik wrote:
I've recently switched from suse 9.0 to 9.1 and I experience two usb related problems.
1) Automounting USB flash drive ("key") when I plug in the key disk gets auto mounted and creates an entry in /etc/mtab but not /etc/fstab!
-- "/etc/mtab": /dev/sda1 /media/usb-storage-odd-CANYONUSB20Disk-USBMassStorageDevice:0:0:0p1 subfs rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,sync,fs=floppyfss,procuid 0 0
-- "mount" says: /dev/sda1 on /media/usb-storage-odd-CANYONUSB20Disk-USBMassStorageDevice:0:0:0p1 type subfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,sync,fs=floppyfss,procuid)
problem is that I cannot umount /dev/sda1 as normal user: > umount /dev/sda1 umount: /dev/sda1 is not in the fstab (and you are not root)
2) USB 2.0 possible error? on my old computer (with just usb 1.1) my usb hub (on LG1710B) worked perfectly, it had usb mouse and a wacom tablet connectedd now on my new computer (epox 8rda+, 6 usb port, 4back, 2 front) if I plug the hub (and mouse in it...) the hub stops working after some time (app 10 minutes), also the front 2 usb don't work correctly or at all when the hub is connected. USBview says (my comment in ""): EHCI Host Controller "2.0" USB Embedded Hub "usb flash drive" OHCI Host Controller "1.1" hub OHCI Host Controller USB-PS/2 optical mouse ET-04... "wacom tablet"
It seem system recognizes devices correctly but fails after some time?!?
Thank you in advance.
-- Joseph Loo jloo@acm.org
it is impossible to add user entry in fstab, since there is no entry in fstab (for usb storage), when plugged in it creates an entry in /etc/mtab. If there is no data corrupt (as it seems now) then the "problem" is solved for me. How about second problem? Has anybody any idea what could be wrong with usb hub and other ports (connected to motherboard) that they fail to recognize devices or work at all? In bios I have 1.1/2.0 mode selected opposed to just 1.1 mode. I posted a usbview report earlier. Thanks
it is impossible to add user entry in fstab, since there is no entry in fstab (for usb storage), when plugged in it creates an entry in /etc/mtab. If there is no data corrupt (as it seems now) then the "problem" is solved for me.
How about second problem? Has anybody any idea what could be wrong with usb hub and other ports (connected to motherboard) that they fail to recognize devices or work at all? In bios I have 1.1/2.0 mode selected opposed to just 1.1 mode. I posted a usbview report earlier.
Thanks
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I've had partial success by adding usbdevfs /sys/bus/usb usbdevfs noauto 0 0 to the fstab. Clark
Ales,
I don't have this running on a SuSE 9.1 these days, but I have it on a Gentoo
and it should work the same way. Here is part of an /etc/fstab that includes
the user option for a usb drive:
/dev/sda1 /home/Docs reiserfs noauto,noatime,user 0 0
/dev/sda2 /home/backup reiserfs noauto,user 0 0
/dev/sda3 /home/win ntfs noauto,user,uid=atlantis,gid=users 0 0
This will work if your drive is the only disk mounted as an SCSI disk
(dev/sda).
If you already have some SCSI disks or another USB drive, you should change it
to your value. You can use the value in /etc/mtab.
Quoting Ales Jagodnik
it is impossible to add user entry in fstab, since there is no entry in fstab (for usb storage), when plugged in it creates an entry in /etc/mtab. If there is no data corrupt (as it seems now) then the "problem" is solved for me.
How about second problem? Has anybody any idea what could be wrong with usb hub and other ports (connected to motherboard) that they fail to recognize devices or work at all? In bios I have 1.1/2.0 mode selected opposed to just 1.1 mode. I posted a usbview report earlier.
Thanks
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Jorge, I had suse 9.0 and gentoo 1.4 configured in similar way you mention and it worked perfectly. It wasn't automatic as it is in suse 9.1 now ("the mtab & no fstab thing & automounting through subfs"). I had: /dev/sda1 /media/usbdisk auto noauto,noatime,user,rw 0 0 worked like a gem, no auto disrupting :) thanks anyway But I did find a partial answer to my 2. problem. It must be usb 2.0 driver (EHCI). I changed in my BIOS from 1.1/2.0 support to just 1.1 and all hubs work perfect (especiall the one on lcd) Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto wrote:
Ales,
I don't have this running on a SuSE 9.1 these days, but I have it on a Gentoo and it should work the same way. Here is part of an /etc/fstab that includes the user option for a usb drive:
/dev/sda1 /home/Docs reiserfs noauto,noatime,user 0 0 /dev/sda2 /home/backup reiserfs noauto,user 0 0 /dev/sda3 /home/win ntfs noauto,user,uid=atlantis,gid=users 0 0
This will work if your drive is the only disk mounted as an SCSI disk (dev/sda). If you already have some SCSI disks or another USB drive, you should change it to your value. You can use the value in /etc/mtab.
But I did find a partial answer to my 2. problem. It must be usb 2.0 driver (EHCI). I changed in my > BIOS from 1.1/2.0 support to just 1.1 and all hubs work perfect (especiall the one on lcd)
I thought I found the solution, but it still stopped working, this time after 2 hours.
But I did find a partial answer to my 2. problem. It must be usb 2.0 driver (EHCI). I changed in my > BIOS from 1.1/2.0 support to just 1.1 and all hubs work perfect (especiall the one on lcd)
I thought I found the solution, but it still stopped working, this time after 2 hours.
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I just installed the current mantel 2.6.5-17 kernel and now my usb jump drive and flash cards are seen and mounted quickly. I can also access and modify the files on those devices.
Does someone know how to disable subfs (deamons, at boot...), not just in fstab? Thanks
On Wednesday 19 May 2004 05:39 pm, Ales Jagodnik wrote:
Does someone know how to disable subfs (deamons, at boot...), not just in fstab?
Submount uses a kernel module to assist in mounting. You will need to remove the module from the kernel. If you want to remove it temporarely, then issue "modprobe -r subfs" as root without the quotes. Hope that gets you started. Marshall
Hi, On Wednesday 19 May 2004 23:39, Ales Jagodnik wrote:
Does someone know how to disable subfs (deamons, at boot...), not just in fstab?
There is a new article in the support data base about this. So far it's only available in German (English version of the article should follow soon): http://portal.suse.com/sdb/de/2004/05/hmeyer_91_revert_from_subfs.html Greetings from Bremen hartmut
Thanks!!! It works. Ales Hartmut Meyer wrote:
Hi,
On Wednesday 19 May 2004 23:39, Ales Jagodnik wrote:
Does someone know how to disable subfs (deamons, at boot...), not just in fstab?
There is a new article in the support data base about this. So far it's only available in German (English version of the article should follow soon):
http://portal.suse.com/sdb/de/2004/05/hmeyer_91_revert_from_subfs.html
Greetings from Bremen hartmut
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Fred Miller -
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Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto -
Joseph Loo -
Marshall Heartley