I use Sylpheed-claws for mail (v8.2 package version) and I receive this weird message from the local mailer daemon that I never got in v8.1: 'This text is part of the internal format of your mail folder, and is not a real message. It is created automatically by the mail system software. If deleted, important folder data will be lost, and it will be re-created with the data reset to initial values.' What's with this? I do have root local mail sent to me (saves logging in as root) but I never had this behaviour in v8.1. I get hundreds of emails a day, many of which I delete as I read through because the thread does not interest me and it is very annoying to have to avoid this message. Can I filter it out of my inbox? I know nothing about it? It's only a minor annoyance but advice as to how to avoid it would be nice. Paul.
On Thursday 15 May 2003 23:55, Paul Trevethan wrote:
I use Sylpheed-claws for mail (v8.2 package version) and I receive this weird message from the local mailer daemon that I never got in v8.1:
'This text is part of the internal format of your mail folder, and is not a real message. It is created automatically by the mail system software. If deleted, important folder data will be lost, and it will be re-created with the data reset to initial values.'
What's with this? I do have root local mail sent to me (saves logging in as root) but I never had this behaviour in v8.1. I get hundreds of emails a day, many of which I delete as I read through because the thread does not interest me and it is very annoying to have to avoid this message.
Have you thought about setting up filters? I can see how simply stuffing everything you get into your inbox would be a nuicance. Filtering all mail from suse-linux-e into a separate folder, from linux-kernel into another or whatever it is you receive is one way to keep things sane
Can I filter it out of my inbox? I know nothing about it? It's only a minor annoyance but advice as to how to avoid it would be nice.
Have you by any chance been playing with pine? I know pine creates a message like that. I don't know of any modern mailer that uses it, so you can probably just delete it
* Paul Trevethan (pclist@pacific.net.au) [030515 14:49]:
I use Sylpheed-claws for mail (v8.2 package version) and I receive this weird message from the local mailer daemon that I never got in v8.1:
'This text is part of the internal format of your mail folder, and is not a real message. It is created automatically by the mail system software. If deleted, important folder data will be lost, and it will be re-created with the data reset to initial values.'
http://lists.suse.com/archive/suse-linux-e/2003-May/0974.html -- -ckm
On Thu, 15 May 2003 15:01:13 -0700
Christopher Mahmood
* Paul Trevethan (pclist@pacific.net.au) [030515 14:49]:
I use Sylpheed-claws for mail (v8.2 package version) and I receive this weird message from the local mailer daemon that I never got in v8.1:
'This text is part of the internal format of your mail folder, and is not a real message. It is created automatically by the mail system software. If deleted, important folder data will be lost, and it will be re-created with the data reset to initial values.'
http://lists.suse.com/archive/suse-linux-e/2003-May/0974.html
Thanks for the lead. Whilst the prior discussions were about Pine; it appears this has something to do with me using Sylpheed to read the local mail spool. I have root mail re-directed to me. I will turn that off and see if the annoyance goes away. Paul.
The 03.05.16 at 07:55, Paul Trevethan wrote:
'This text is part of the internal format of your mail folder, and is not a real message. It is created automatically by the mail system software. If deleted, important folder data will be lost, and it will be re-created with the data reset to initial values.'
It is just a fake email used a placeholder by some email clients (such as pine and balsa) to save info about the rest of emails in the folder, such as read/new/important, etc (I think). Other clients should recognise it and ignore it if they can not make use of it. The problem is that the mbox format is standard, but the index, and each client implements its own. You can delete it safely, the most you loose is flags info.
What's with this? I do have root local mail sent to me (saves logging in as root) but I never had this behaviour in v8.1. I get hundreds of emails a day, many of which I delete as I read through because the thread does not interest me and it is very annoying to have to avoid this message.
It doesn't annoy me... I leave it, it is always marked read, and is the first one on the folder. Try to delete it, and if it reapears it is because you are using some software that needs it. -- Cheers, Carlos Robinson
On Fri, 16 May 2003 07:55:17 +1000
Paul Trevethan
Can I filter it out of my inbox? I know nothing about it? It's only a minor annoyance but advice as to how to avoid it would be nice.
Huh, Sylpheed have one the the best filtering system available. Right click on the message in the list and choose "Create Filter Rule". There are actually a lot more options than the submenu shows, but they can only be set once the dialog box is up. Please refer to the Sylpheed manual. Charles -- "However, complexity is not always the enemy." -- Larry Wall (Open Sources, 1999 O'Reilly and Associates)
On Thu, 15 May 2003 22:06:01 -0400
Charles Philip Chan
On Fri, 16 May 2003 07:55:17 +1000 Paul Trevethan
wrote: Can I filter it out of my inbox? I know nothing about it? It's only a minor annoyance but advice as to how to avoid it would be nice.
Huh, Sylpheed have one the the best filtering system available. Right click on the message in the list and choose "Create Filter Rule". There are actually a lot more options than the submenu shows, but they can only be set once the dialog box is up. Please refer to the Sylpheed manual.
Charles
I did not express that very well Charles, sorry. I meant I knew nothing about the message, not Sylpheed filtering. The question was meaning whether to ask if I could 'get rid of it' by filtering. I am well aware of the excellent filtering in Sylpheed. It is one of the reasons I use it to cope with my hundreds of emails a day. If the message was some system generated thing, I was really wondering if simply moving it from the inbox would generate another one? It does not matter now anyway as I stopped Sylpheed reading local system messages and the message has not reappeared. Thanks anyway. Paul.
On Fri, 16 May 2003 14:39:13 +1000
Paul Trevethan
The question was meaning whether to ask if I could 'get rid of it' by filtering.
Yes.
If the message was some system generated thing, I was really wondering if simply moving it from the inbox would generate another one?
Yes, it will be regenerated in your system mailbox, ie: /var/spool/mail/<user> but it won't reappear in your Sylpheed inbox if you set up a filter rule to delete it during incorporation.
It does not matter now anyway as I stopped Sylpheed reading local system messages and the message has not reappeared.
Why do you need to do that? Charles -- "Even more amazing was the realization that God has Internet access. I wonder if He has a full newsfeed?" (By Matt Welsh)
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