[opensuse] netcfg (15.1 and TW)
LS, I can't start postfix or nfs-server because /etc/services is relocated to /usr/etc/services as from Jan 30. Other programs are not accordingly adjusted! This happens both under TW and 15.1. Please, correct this issue. Regards, Frans. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 05-02-2020 09:10, Frans de Boer wrote:
LS,
I can't start postfix or nfs-server because /etc/services is relocated to /usr/etc/services as from Jan 30. Other programs are not accordingly adjusted!
This happens both under TW and 15.1. Please, correct this issue.
Regards, Frans.
I found even more files under /usr/etc who originally where located under /etc. Some other services need those other files. I copied all back to /etc to have a working system. Please don't fool around with different FS layouts until all other programs are aware of it!!!! --- Frans. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 05/02/2020 09.10, Frans de Boer wrote:
LS,
I can't start postfix or nfs-server because /etc/services is relocated to /usr/etc/services as from Jan 30. Other programs are not accordingly adjusted!
This happens both under TW and 15.1. Please, correct this issue.
Please do not double post, and please read the mail threads already talking about this before posting. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.1 x86_64 at Telcontar)
On Wed, 5 Feb 2020 09:30:45 +0100 "Carlos E.R." <robin.listas@gmx.es> wrote:
On 05/02/2020 09.10, Frans de Boer wrote:
LS,
I can't start postfix or nfs-server because /etc/services is relocated to /usr/etc/services as from Jan 30. Other programs are not accordingly adjusted!
This happens both under TW and 15.1. Please, correct this issue.
Please do not double post, and please read the mail threads already talking about this before posting.
Where are these other discussions? I would like to understand exactly what the change is and the rationale for it. Also what the scope is - openSUSE or wider? AFAIK FHS 3.0 is still current and there is no /usr/etc in there. My reading of it suggests that something like /etc/services could be moved to /usr/share and a symlink to it be placed in /etc to remain compliant. But I would argue that since local administrators may still require to add new (possibly local) protocols to it from time to time, it should remain in /etc. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 05/02/2020 12.48, Dave Howorth wrote: | On Wed, 5 Feb 2020 09:30:45 +0100 "Carlos E.R." <> wrote: | |> On 05/02/2020 09.10, Frans de Boer wrote: |>> LS, |>> |>> I can't start postfix or nfs-server because /etc/services is |>> relocated to /usr/etc/services as from Jan 30. Other programs |>> are not accordingly adjusted! |>> |>> This happens both under TW and 15.1. Please, correct this |>> issue. |> |> Please do not double post, and please read the mail threads |> already talking about this before posting. | | Where are these other discussions? For example, <https://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-factory/2020-02/msg00031.html> <https://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-factory/2020-02/msg00023.html> <https://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-factory/2020-02/msg00019.html> | | I would like to understand exactly what the change is and the | rationale for it. Also what the scope is - openSUSE or wider? AFAIK | FHS 3.0 is still current and there is no /usr/etc in there. My | reading of it suggests that something like /etc/services could be | moved to /usr/share and a symlink to it be placed in /etc to remain | compliant. No symlinks, that breaks the rationale. Configs distributed in rpm will now go to /usr/etc, and in /etc will be only the modifications that supersede the defaults. like systemd does. | | But I would argue that since local administrators may still require | to add new (possibly local) protocols to it from time to time, it | should remain in /etc. Nope. :-P - -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.1 x86_64 at Telcontar) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iF0EARECAB0WIQQZEb51mJKK1KpcU/W1MxgcbY1H1QUCXjqxzAAKCRC1MxgcbY1H 1cc/AJoCpglsXGYOSy+MkyKHx0EQaD4kjgCfbsCrC0U3+rmrEIFTu1MZ3hBW74Q= =Toqw -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 2/5/20 7:15 AM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
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On 05/02/2020 12.48, Dave Howorth wrote: | On Wed, 5 Feb 2020 09:30:45 +0100 "Carlos E.R." <> wrote: | |> On 05/02/2020 09.10, Frans de Boer wrote: |>> LS, |>> |>> I can't start postfix or nfs-server because /etc/services is |>> relocated to /usr/etc/services as from Jan 30. Other programs |>> are not accordingly adjusted! |>> |>> This happens both under TW and 15.1. Please, correct this |>> issue. |> |> Please do not double post, and please read the mail threads |> already talking about this before posting. | | Where are these other discussions?
For example,
<https://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-factory/2020-02/msg00031.html> <https://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-factory/2020-02/msg00023.html> <https://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-factory/2020-02/msg00019.html>
But /this list/ is not the factory list. Please don't be so harsh on people when referring to other lists. -- Ken Schneider SuSe since Version 5.2, June 1998 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 05/02/2020 14.02, Ken Schneider - openSUSE wrote: | On 2/5/20 7:15 AM, Carlos E. R. wrote: |> On 05/02/2020 12.48, Dave Howorth wrote: | On Wed, 5 Feb 2020 |> 09:30:45 +0100 "Carlos E.R." <> wrote: | |> On 05/02/2020 09.10, |> Frans de Boer wrote: |>> LS, |>> |>> I can't start postfix or |> nfs-server because /etc/services is |>> relocated to |> /usr/etc/services as from Jan 30. Other programs |>> are not |> accordingly adjusted! |>> |>> This happens both under TW and |> 15.1. Please, correct this |>> issue. |> |> Please do not double |> post, and please read the mail threads |> already talking about |> this before posting. | | Where are these other discussions? |> |> For example, |> |> <https://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-factory/2020-02/msg00031.html> |> |> <https://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-factory/2020-02/msg00023.html> |> <https://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-factory/2020-02/msg00019.html> |> |> | |> But /this list/ is not the factory list. Please don't be so harsh on | people when referring to other lists. He posted to both mail lists in a single post. A double post. My mistake was that the reply was only on this list. - -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.1 x86_64 at Telcontar) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iF0EARECAB0WIQQZEb51mJKK1KpcU/W1MxgcbY1H1QUCXjq9qQAKCRC1MxgcbY1H 1UVtAJ90Ky7Kt3rm0R6l1FdmoGZamXrHGwCgjt1E9BZ3qF2fpGelOpXhuKtPDOI= =sUsE -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 2/5/20 8:05 AM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
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On 05/02/2020 14.02, Ken Schneider - openSUSE wrote: | On 2/5/20 7:15 AM, Carlos E. R. wrote: |> On 05/02/2020 12.48, Dave Howorth wrote: | On Wed, 5 Feb 2020 |> 09:30:45 +0100 "Carlos E.R." <> wrote: | |> On 05/02/2020 09.10, |> Frans de Boer wrote: |>> LS, |>> |>> I can't start postfix or |> nfs-server because /etc/services is |>> relocated to |> /usr/etc/services as from Jan 30. Other programs |>> are not |> accordingly adjusted! |>> |>> This happens both under TW and |> 15.1. Please, correct this |>> issue. |> |> Please do not double |> post, and please read the mail threads |> already talking about |> this before posting. | | Where are these other discussions? |> |> For example, |> |> <https://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-factory/2020-02/msg00031.html> |> |> <https://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-factory/2020-02/msg00023.html> |> <https://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-factory/2020-02/msg00019.html> |> |> | |> But /this list/ is not the factory list. Please don't be so harsh on | people when referring to other lists.
He posted to both mail lists in a single post. A double post. My mistake was that the reply was only on this list.
Ah, I see said the blind man. -- Ken Schneider SuSe since Version 5.2, June 1998 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Frans de Boer wrote:
LS,
I can't start postfix or nfs-server because /etc/services is relocated to /usr/etc/services as from Jan 30. Other programs are not accordingly adjusted!
This happens both under TW and 15.1. Please, correct this issue.
Apparently you need to apply some updates to nsswitch.conf. That is should also apply to Leap 15.1 is a bit worrying. You are sure? -- Per Jessen, Zürich (4.7°C) http://www.hostsuisse.com/ - virtual servers, made in Switzerland. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 05-02-2020 10:42, Per Jessen wrote:
Frans de Boer wrote:
LS,
I can't start postfix or nfs-server because /etc/services is relocated to /usr/etc/services as from Jan 30. Other programs are not accordingly adjusted!
This happens both under TW and 15.1. Please, correct this issue. Apparently you need to apply some updates to nsswitch.conf.
That is should also apply to Leap 15.1 is a bit worrying. You are sure?
I have checked the contents of /usr/etc and it refers only to "boinc". So, it can't be of influence to the NFS client. Maybe it was a coincidental issue together with a specific NFS server which is running under TW and needs the /etc/services file? Anyhow, 15.1 seems not having any problem, so I stand corrected. There, however, remains the issue of updating TW and the seemingly expected additional manual user activities. As others already stated in another thread: a nerdy update process is not going to win more real users. I am using Suse and openSuSE now for some decades, never had to use - nor was aware of it - the additional manual tasks after updating. -- Frans. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Frans de Boer wrote:
On 05-02-2020 10:42, Per Jessen wrote:
Frans de Boer wrote:
LS,
I can't start postfix or nfs-server because /etc/services is relocated to /usr/etc/services as from Jan 30. Other programs are not accordingly adjusted!
This happens both under TW and 15.1. Please, correct this issue. Apparently you need to apply some updates to nsswitch.conf.
That is should also apply to Leap 15.1 is a bit worrying. You are sure?
I have checked the contents of /usr/etc and it refers only to "boinc". So, it can't be of influence to the NFS client. Maybe it was a coincidental issue together with a specific NFS server which is running under TW and needs the /etc/services file?
Anyhow, 15.1 seems not having any problem, so I stand corrected.
Ah, that's great. I am much relieved.
There, however, remains the issue of updating TW and the seemingly expected additional manual user activities. As others already stated in another thread: a nerdy update process is not going to win more real users.
Tumbleweed is mostly for tinkerers? Let's hope this particular change does not make into Leap. -- Per Jessen, Zürich (3.8°C) http://www.hostsuisse.com/ - virtual servers, made in Switzerland. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 05/02/2020 11.46, Per Jessen wrote: | Frans de Boer wrote: |> On 05-02-2020 10:42, Per Jessen wrote: |>> Frans de Boer wrote: |> Anyhow, 15.1 seems not having any problem, so I stand corrected. | | Ah, that's great. I am much relieved. | |> There, however, remains the issue of updating TW and the |> seemingly expected additional manual user activities. As others |> already stated in another thread: a nerdy update process is not |> going to win more real users. | | Tumbleweed is mostly for tinkerers? Let's hope this particular | change does not make into Leap. It can not, at least on version 15.*. On version 16.*, quite possibly. - -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.1 x86_64 at Telcontar) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iF0EARECAB0WIQQZEb51mJKK1KpcU/W1MxgcbY1H1QUCXjqduQAKCRC1MxgcbY1H 1TqDAKCRVjqxeMXHE04XttJGYp5Iaqvy4ACfXxDd3d/9ixJHXoVnRuy+5/gKl0g= =1B9a -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 05/02/2020 11.18, Frans de Boer wrote: | I am using Suse and openSuSE now for some decades, never had to | use - nor was aware of it - the additional manual tasks after | updating. I was, and documented the procedure in the Wiki, under the upgrade section. But IMHO "zypper dup" should explicitly say so in the output. - -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.1 x86_64 at Telcontar) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iF0EARECAB0WIQQZEb51mJKK1KpcU/W1MxgcbY1H1QUCXjqdVgAKCRC1MxgcbY1H 1ZQmAJ449LWB0Bzi9oOoy2kgkiYPGDjBtQCgj8DVDGeRxSvXpyY2dVK3HmlIo/A= =mrAq -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
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