Hi there, I've got an old toshiba satellite laptop and want to put suse 9.2 fluxbox, abiword and other smallish apps on it. However, before I can get to install I am told that the system does not have enough memory to run yast and needs a swap. Since 64 mb is not enough to run knoppix or mephis I am unsure how to proceed (that is get the swap set up). I tried gentoo for a laugh but stumbled straight away at fdisk /dev/hda (unable to seek on /dev/hda). Can I still try Suse or should I go for another distro? if so, any recommendations? Thanks in advance Ingo
On Thu, 2005-02-17 at 12:22, blabla wrote:
Hi there,
I've got an old toshiba satellite laptop and want to put suse 9.2 fluxbox, abiword and other smallish apps on it.
However, before I can get to install I am told that the system does not have enough memory to run yast and needs a swap.
Since 64 mb is not enough to run knoppix or mephis I am unsure how to proceed (that is get the swap set up).
I tried gentoo for a laugh but stumbled straight away at fdisk /dev/hda (unable to seek on /dev/hda).
Can I still try Suse or should I go for another distro? if so, any recommendations?
Thanks in advance
Ingo
If you can boot into rescue mode you should be able to create a swap partition that way. -- Ken Schneider UNIX since 1989, linux since 1994, SuSE since 1998 * Only reply to the list please* "The day Microsoft makes something that doesn't suck is probably the day they start making vacuum cleaners." -Ernst Jan Plugge
blabla wrote:
Hi there,
I've got an old toshiba satellite laptop and want to put suse 9.2 fluxbox, abiword and other smallish apps on it.
However, before I can get to install I am told that the system does not have enough memory to run yast and needs a swap.
Can I still try Suse or should I go for another distro? if so, any recommendations?
You could go for SuSE 7.3 instead - I've got that running an on 486 router with 24Mb. /Per Jessen, Zürich -- http://www.spamchek.ch/freetrial - sign up for your free 30-day trial now!
The Thursday 2005-02-17 at 19:00 +0100, Per Jessen wrote:
You could go for SuSE 7.3 instead - I've got that running an on 486 router with 24Mb.
An me on a P-133 with 32Mb. Pity 7.3 is no longer mantained: SuSE could think of maintaining a small footprint distro for old machines used as firewalls or routers. I know there are other options, but I like SuSE. -- Cheers, Carlos Robinson
Carlos E. R. wrote:
The Thursday 2005-02-17 at 19:00 +0100, Per Jessen wrote:
You could go for SuSE 7.3 instead - I've got that running on a 486 router with 24Mb.
An me on a P-133 with 32Mb. Pity 7.3 is no longer mantained: SuSE could think of maintaining a small footprint distro for old machines used as firewalls or routers. I know there are other options, but I like SuSE.
Ditto. The one thing about 7.3 is also it doesn't have YaST2 - YaST1 is much faster and much smaller. /Per Jessen, Zürich
Per Jessen wrote:
Carlos E. R. wrote:
The Thursday 2005-02-17 at 19:00 +0100, Per Jessen wrote:
You could go for SuSE 7.3 instead - I've got that running on a 486 router with 24Mb.
An me on a P-133 with 32Mb. Pity 7.3 is no longer mantained: SuSE could think of maintaining a small footprint distro for old machines used as firewalls or routers. I know there are other options, but I like SuSE.
Ditto. The one thing about 7.3 is also it doesn't have YaST2 - YaST1 is much faster and much smaller.
/Per Jessen, Zürich
My first YOU update was done in VC mode on 9.2, so minutes ago I typed "yast" in an xterm and pronto, up it came, now at 84% in downloading YOU updates. Regards Sid. -- Sid Boyce .... Hamradio G3VBV and Keen Flyer =====ALMOST ALL LINUX USED HERE, Solaris 10 SPARC is just for play=====
Per Jessen wrote: The one thing about 7.3 is also it doesn't have YaST2 - YaST1 is much faster and much
smaller.
Right, I tried 9.2 but it told me that it would take some 10 hours to install. I'm giving it a go but would much prefer having yast1. So I did a quick google but couldn't find any 7.3 download sites - anybody out there with one? Cheers
10 hours to install? Yikes, what kind of package selection is that with? ----------------------------------------------- Sent by freemail.servebeer.com Signup for your free 100mb Mail account today! Full pop3/smtp accounts available!! ----------------------------------------------- -----Original Message----- From: blabla [mailto:blabla1@cwazy.co.uk] Sent: 18 February 2005 16:06 To: suse-linux-e@suse.com Subject: Re: [SLE] installing suse with 64 mb Per Jessen wrote: The one thing about 7.3 is also it doesn't have YaST2 - YaST1 is much faster and much
smaller.
Right, I tried 9.2 but it told me that it would take some 10 hours to install. I'm giving it a go but would much prefer having yast1. So I did a quick google but couldn't find any 7.3 download sites - anybody out there with one? Cheers -- Check the headers for your unsubscription address For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the archives at http://lists.suse.com Please read the FAQs: suse-linux-e-faq@suse.com
The Friday 2005-02-18 at 17:05 +0100, blabla wrote:
Right, I tried 9.2 but it told me that it would take some 10 hours to install.
Only? :-p It took mine more than a day for 7.3. Perhaps it was an update, I forget.
I'm giving it a go but would much prefer having yast1. So I did a quick google but couldn't find any 7.3 download sites - anybody out there with one?
It should be on the suse server, but on a diferent tree, obsolete or some similar name [...] ah, I found it: Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 18:39:41 +0100 (MET) From: Roman Drahtmueller Subject: [suse-security-announce] Discontinued SuSE Linux Distributions ... By consequence, the SuSE Linux 7.3 distribution directories on our ftp server ftp.suse.com will be moved to the /pub/suse/discontinued/ directory tree structure; the 7.3 directories in the update trees will follow later in January 2004. I don't know if this tree is mirrored. -- Cheers, Carlos Robinson
Carlos E. R. wrote: > By consequence, the SuSE Linux 7.3 distribution directories on our ftp
server ftp.suse.com will be moved to the /pub/suse/discontinued/ directory tree structure; the 7.3 directories in the update trees will follow later in January 2004.
I don't know if this tree is mirrored.
Thanks very much Carlos. Since then I've found someone here in Munich who's got 7.3, so no download necessary. Still, good to know. First I see how that works, otherwise I gonna try RH 6. Got Damn Small Linux to work and I must say it is pretty damn quick! It might have no hotplugging capabilities nor have I managed to get my ATMEL WLAN card to work yet, but otherwise I am impressed! Ingo
server ftp.suse.com will be moved to the /pub/suse/discontinued/
Wireless cards (I assume that's what a WLAN is) are a nightmare, check out ndiswrapper (comes installed with suse, not sure about damn small linux). Its what I use to run my wireless card in my server, and theres isn't that much performance loss because of ndiswrapper. ----------------------------------------------- Sent by freemail.servebeer.com Signup for your free 100mb Mail account today! Full pop3/smtp accounts available!! ----------------------------------------------- -----Original Message----- From: blabla [mailto:blabla1@cwazy.co.uk] Sent: 19 February 2005 09:38 To: suse-linux-e@suse.com Subject: Re: [SLE] installing suse with 64 mb Carlos E. R. wrote: > By consequence, the SuSE Linux 7.3 distribution directories on our ftp directory
tree structure; the 7.3 directories in the update trees will follow later in January 2004.
I don't know if this tree is mirrored.
Thanks very much Carlos. Since then I've found someone here in Munich who's got 7.3, so no download necessary. Still, good to know. First I see how that works, otherwise I gonna try RH 6. Got Damn Small Linux to work and I must say it is pretty damn quick! It might have no hotplugging capabilities nor have I managed to get my ATMEL WLAN card to work yet, but otherwise I am impressed! Ingo -- Check the headers for your unsubscription address For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the archives at http://lists.suse.com Please read the FAQs: suse-linux-e-faq@suse.com
The Friday 2005-02-18 at 13:36 +0100, Per Jessen wrote:
An me on a P-133 with 32Mb. Pity 7.3 is no longer mantained: SuSE could think of maintaining a small footprint distro for old machines used as firewalls or routers. I know there are other options, but I like SuSE.
Ditto. The one thing about 7.3 is also it doesn't have YaST2 - YaST1 is much faster and much smaller.
With one exception: the online update module has a bug in it, and it eats, no, wolves memory. I have on that 32Mb machine about 2 GIGA bits of swap only for that purpose. Just have a look at the binary's name: "/usr/lib/YaST2/bin/y2bignfat", ie, "yast2 big and fat.", I suppose. Yes, it does have yast2. I have it online for the purpose of working as modem-router for 9.1: modem pppd is broken in 9.1, as reported time ago. -- Cheers, Carlos Robinson
Per Jessen wrote:
blabla wrote:
Hi there,
I've got an old toshiba satellite laptop and want to put suse 9.2 fluxbox, abiword and other smallish apps on it.
However, before I can get to install I am told that the system does not have enough memory to run yast and needs a swap.
Can I still try Suse or should I go for another distro? if so, any recommendations?
You could go for SuSE 7.3 instead - I've got that running an on 486 router with 24Mb.
And I've got a copy of Slackware 2.3, that should fit. ;-)
On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 18:22:26 +0100, blabla
Hi there,
I've got an old toshiba satellite laptop and want to put suse 9.2 fluxbox, abiword and other smallish apps on it.
However, before I can get to install I am told that the system does not have enough memory to run yast and needs a swap.
Since 64 mb is not enough to run knoppix or mephis I am unsure how to proceed (that is get the swap set up).
I tried gentoo for a laugh but stumbled straight away at fdisk /dev/hda (unable to seek on /dev/hda).
Can I still try Suse or should I go for another distro? if so, any recommendations?
Thanks in advance
Ingo
-- Check the headers for your unsubscription address For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the archives at http://lists.suse.com Please read the FAQs: suse-linux-e-faq@suse.com
Try this (only 50MB). http://www.damnsmalllinux.org/ Boot from it and create a swap partition. Sunny -- Get Firefox http://www.spreadfirefox.com/?q=affiliates&id=10745&t=85
On Thursday 17 February 2005 11:22 am, blabla wrote:
Can I still try Suse or should I go for another distro? if so, any recommendations?
You can still do SuSE; you'll just need to go with an older version of it. For instance, I was able to install SuSE 9.0 on an old Dell laptop that only has 64MB of RAM. -- Mark McKibben http://coffeebear.net/ "You cannot depend on your eyes when your imagination is out of focus." - Mark Twain (1835 - 1910)
blabla wrote:
Hi there,
I've got an old toshiba satellite laptop and want to put suse 9.2 fluxbox, abiword and other smallish apps on it.
However, before I can get to install I am told that the system does not have enough memory to run yast and needs a swap.
Since 64 mb is not enough to run knoppix or mephis I am unsure how to proceed (that is get the swap set up).
I tried gentoo for a laugh but stumbled straight away at fdisk /dev/hda (unable to seek on /dev/hda).
Can I still try Suse or should I go for another distro? if so, any recommendations?
Thanks in advance
Ingo
Fujitsu laptop P-II/333Mhz, 64M, 2M video, 20G HD. 9.2 installed no problem, all the problems were with XP3000+ and XP3000+/64-bit laptop. Non-graphical install. Windowmaker, iceWM and Xfce4 are all responsive, KDE under 9.1 on it was so slow that just moving the mouse took it ages to settle. Go for it. Regards Sid. -- Sid Boyce .... Hamradio G3VBV and Keen Flyer =====ALMOST ALL LINUX USED HERE, Solaris 10 SPARC is just for play=====
Right, quick update: managed to get the swap on there with the help of a mandrake cd und put the 9.2 CD in. However, especially hardware recognition and installation selection took *forever*. So I tried Damn Small Linux but it wouldn't boot. Since then Sid has said that Suse 9.2 works fine on small mashines - how about your yast? Is it a question of clicking and coming back half an hour later? And many thanks for all the offers of old distros! Much appreciated, but I need PCMCIA support for an atmal wlan chipset - not sure whether the older ones have it/I am competent enough to put it in afterwards unless it is an rpm... Cheers Ingo
blabla wrote:
Right, quick update:
managed to get the swap on there with the help of a mandrake cd und put the 9.2 CD in. However, especially hardware recognition and installation selection took *forever*.
So I tried Damn Small Linux but it wouldn't boot.
Since then Sid has said that Suse 9.2 works fine on small mashines - how about your yast? Is it a question of clicking and coming back half an hour later?
And many thanks for all the offers of old distros! Much appreciated, but I need PCMCIA support for an atmal wlan chipset - not sure whether the older ones have it/I am competent enough to put it in afterwards unless it is an rpm...
Cheers
Ingo
Hmmmmmm..... pretty instant, embarrassed as it takes ages to come up on this XP3000+ and the 64-bit laptop perhaps because of the amount of stuff I have running on them or may be to do with KDE. So for yast, it's the fastest box I have - using iceWM. Regards Sid. -- Sid Boyce .... Hamradio G3VBV and Keen Flyer =====ALMOST ALL LINUX USED HERE, Solaris 10 SPARC is just for play=====
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