make boot disk from install disk--how?
I need to boot into my crashed Tumbleweed system to copy some files onto a second ssd within the computer. I have several install disks from different dates, including one from a couple of days ago. I would be happier if the boot disk does NOT include an installation, since I'm afraid I might wipe some of the data off the existing crashed drive. I have two different Linux systems and Windows 10 available to do the job. I have looked on Google, but most of the information there is designed to install a system. I I am assuming that if I can boot a Linux system from CD that I can then read the internal drive and copy files to another drive. If I'm wrong, then what do you suggest? Please keep it as simple as possible, I'm not a guru! Thanx--doug
On 27/04/2021 09.45, Doug McGarrett wrote:
I need to boot into my crashed Tumbleweed system to copy some files onto a second ssd within the computer. I have several install disks from different dates, including one from a couple of days ago. I would be happier if the boot disk does NOT include an installation, since I'm afraid I might wipe some of the data off the existing crashed drive. I have two different Linux systems and Windows 10 available to do the job. I have looked on Google, but most of the information there is designed to install a system. I I am assuming that if I can boot a Linux system from CD that I can then read the internal drive and copy files to another drive. If I'm wrong, then what do you suggest? Please keep it as simple as possible, I'm not a guru! Thanx--doug
https://get.opensuse.org/leap and click on "Rescue LiveCD". Download, then write on a CD or USB stick (I recommend using an USB stick, better just 8 GB size), following the instructions on the site - read them fully before starting, there are many roads, choose the one that is easier for you. https://en.opensuse.org/SDB:Download_help go down the page to section "Burn the ISO image(s) to DVD" For usb stick: https://en.opensuse.org/SDB:Live_USB_stick If you have to use Windows, then: https://en.opensuse.org/SDB:Create_a_Live_USB_stick_using_Windows -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.2 x86_64 at Telcontar)
On Tuesday 27 April 2021, Doug McGarrett wrote:
I need to boot into my crashed Tumbleweed system to copy some files onto a second ssd within the computer. I have several install disks from different dates, including one from a couple of days ago. I would be happier if the boot disk does NOT include an installation, since I'm afraid I might wipe some of the data off the existing crashed drive. I have two different Linux systems and Windows 10 available to do the job. I have looked on Google, but most of the information there is designed to install a system. I I am assuming that if I can boot a Linux system from CD that I can then read the internal drive and copy files to another drive. If I'm wrong, then what do you suggest? Please keep it as simple as possible, I'm not a guru! Thanx--doug
A bit of googling on the opensuse rescue boot will lead to pages such as: https://doc.opensuse.org/documentation/leap/archive/42.1/startup/html/book.o... As described in the above, use/make an install dvd/usb-stick and boot it into rescue mode. You can then use the mount command on the rescue media to mount the crashed drive's partitions, perhaps using -o ro to mount to mount them readonly. You can then also mount any destination partitions and do the copy. Michael
On 27/04/2021 10.23, Michael Hamilton wrote:
On Tuesday 27 April 2021, Doug McGarrett wrote:
I need to boot into my crashed Tumbleweed system to copy some files onto a second ssd within the computer. I have several install disks from different dates, including one from a couple of days ago. I would be happier if the boot disk does NOT include an installation, since I'm afraid I might wipe some of the data off the existing crashed drive. I have two different Linux systems and Windows 10 available to do the job. I have looked on Google, but most of the information there is designed to install a system. I I am assuming that if I can boot a Linux system from CD that I can then read the internal drive and copy files to another drive. If I'm wrong, then what do you suggest? Please keep it as simple as possible, I'm not a guru! Thanx--doug
A bit of googling on the opensuse rescue boot will lead to pages such as:
https://doc.opensuse.org/documentation/leap/archive/42.1/startup/html/book.o...
As described in the above, use/make an install dvd/usb-stick and boot it into rescue mode. You can then use the mount command on the rescue media to mount the crashed drive's partitions, perhaps using -o ro to mount to mount them readonly. You can then also mount any destination partitions and do the copy.
Huh, better not use the installation disk in rescue mode because it is "text mode" and will confuse the hell out of Doug. Better use the specific XFCE Rescue CD/USB stick, which is designed for the purpose and runs a full graphical desktop (without install option). -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.2 x86_64 at Telcontar)
On 4/27/21 4:46 AM, Carlos E.R. wrote:
On 27/04/2021 10.23, Michael Hamilton wrote:
On Tuesday 27 April 2021, Doug McGarrett wrote:
I need to boot into my crashed Tumbleweed system to copy some files onto a second ssd within the computer. I have several install disks from different dates, including one from a couple of days ago. I would be happier if the boot disk does NOT include an installation, since I'm afraid I might wipe some of the data off the existing crashed drive. I have two different Linux systems and Windows 10 available to do the job. I have looked on Google, but most of the information there is designed to install a system. I I am assuming that if I can boot a Linux system from CD that I can then read the internal drive and copy files to another drive. If I'm wrong, then what do you suggest? Please keep it as simple as possible, I'm not a guru! Thanx--doug
A bit of googling on the opensuse rescue boot will lead to pages such as:
https://doc.opensuse.org/documentation/leap/archive/42.1/startup/html/book.o...
As described in the above, use/make an install dvd/usb-stick and boot it into rescue mode. You can then use the mount command on the rescue media to mount the crashed drive's partitions, perhaps using -o ro to mount to mount them readonly. You can then also mount any destination partitions and do the copy.
Huh, better not use the installation disk in rescue mode because it is "text mode" and will confuse the hell out of Doug.
Better use the specific XFCE Rescue CD/USB stick, which is designed for the purpose and runs a full graphical desktop (without install option).
Thanx, Carlos--I made the usb-stick and booted on it. But I cannot seem to mount any of the partitions using the definitions in GParted, whether /dev/sda6 or nvme0n1p6, and if I did, I don't see the second ssd in GParted--it doesn't seem to have the facility to change drives. Obviously doing something wrong, but I don't see what. Also cannot run fsck on the partitions--"Possibly non-existent device?" What have I missed this time? --doug
On 28/04/2021 00.31, Doug McGarrett wrote:
On 4/27/21 4:46 AM, Carlos E.R. wrote:
On 27/04/2021 10.23, Michael Hamilton wrote:
Huh, better not use the installation disk in rescue mode because it is
"text mode" and will confuse the hell out of Doug.
Better use the specific XFCE Rescue CD/USB stick, which is designed for the purpose and runs a full graphical desktop (without install option).
Thanx, Carlos--I made the usb-stick and booted on it. But I cannot seem
to mount any of the partitions using the definitions in GParted, whether /dev/sda6 or nvme0n1p6, and if I did, I don't see the second ssd in GParted--it doesn't seem to have the facility to change drives. Obviously doing something wrong, but I don't see what. Also cannot run fsck on the partitions--"Possibly non-existent device?" What have I missed this time?
You ares supposed to get the XFCE desktop. There will be icons for the disks, just double click on them. If there are no icons, the open the file manager (Thunar). Remember that by default you are not root. No permissions. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.2 x86_64 at Telcontar)
On 4/27/21 6:42 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 28/04/2021 00.31, Doug McGarrett wrote:
On 4/27/21 4:46 AM, Carlos E.R. wrote:
On 27/04/2021 10.23, Michael Hamilton wrote:
Huh, better not use the installation disk in rescue mode because it is
"text mode" and will confuse the hell out of Doug.
Better use the specific XFCE Rescue CD/USB stick, which is designed for the purpose and runs a full graphical desktop (without install option).
Thanx, Carlos--I made the usb-stick and booted on it. But I cannot seem
to mount any of the partitions using the definitions in GParted, whether /dev/sda6 or nvme0n1p6, and if I did, I don't see the second ssd in GParted--it doesn't seem to have the facility to change drives. Obviously doing something wrong, but I don't see what. Also cannot run fsck on the partitions--"Possibly non-existent device?" What have I missed this time?
You ares supposed to get the XFCE desktop. There will be icons for the disks, just double click on them. If there are no icons, the open the file manager (Thunar).
Remember that by default you are not root. No permissions.
All I get is the Linux major parts on screen (Thunar?) or in the terminal. I cannot see any of installed or created files or directories from the original system--no Dolphin, no Youtube, no Gwenview, no Libre Office, nothing. Much less any files residing within them. --doug
On 4/27/2021 7:28 PM, Doug McGarrett wrote:
On 4/27/21 6:42 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 28/04/2021 00.31, Doug McGarrett wrote:
On 4/27/21 4:46 AM, Carlos E.R. wrote:
On 27/04/2021 10.23, Michael Hamilton wrote:
Huh, better not use the installation disk in rescue mode because it is
"text mode" and will confuse the hell out of Doug.
Better use the specific XFCE Rescue CD/USB stick, which is designed for the purpose and runs a full graphical desktop (without install option).
Thanx, Carlos--I made the usb-stick and booted on it. But I cannot seem
to mount any of the partitions using the definitions in GParted, whether /dev/sda6 or nvme0n1p6, and if I did, I don't see the second ssd in GParted--it doesn't seem to have the facility to change drives. Obviously doing something wrong, but I don't see what. Also cannot run fsck on the partitions--"Possibly non-existent device?" What have I missed this time?
You ares supposed to get the XFCE desktop. There will be icons for the disks, just double click on them. If there are no icons, the open the file manager (Thunar).
Remember that by default you are not root. No permissions.
All I get is the Linux major parts on screen (Thunar?) or in the terminal. I cannot see any of installed or created files or directories from the original system--no Dolphin, no Youtube, no Gwenview, no Libre Office, nothing. Much less any files residing within them. --doug
It occurred to me that there might be a Windows app that could read ext4--and there is. By some dumb luck, I have Windows on the TW machine (cause it's new). But I think it only read the first of two partitions. There are a lot of empty files! There's supposed to be an upgrade, so I sent off the money, but I didn't get the paid version, at least not yet. Thanx for the inputs. --doug -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus
On 28/04/2021 01.28, Doug McGarrett wrote:
On 4/27/21 6:42 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 28/04/2021 00.31, Doug McGarrett wrote:
On 4/27/21 4:46 AM, Carlos E.R. wrote:
On 27/04/2021 10.23, Michael Hamilton wrote:
Huh, better not use the installation disk in rescue mode because it is "text mode" and will confuse the hell out of Doug.
Better use the specific XFCE Rescue CD/USB stick, which is designed for the purpose and runs a full graphical desktop (without install option).
Thanx, Carlos--I made the usb-stick and booted on it. But I cannot seem to mount any of the partitions using the definitions in GParted, whether /dev/sda6 or nvme0n1p6, and
if I did, I don't see the second ssd in GParted--it doesn't seem to have the facility to change drives. Obviously doing something wrong, but I don't see what. Also cannot run fsck on the partitions--"Possibly non-existent device?" What have I missed this time?
You ares supposed to get the XFCE desktop. There will be icons for the
disks, just double click on them. If there are no icons, the open the file manager (Thunar).
Remember that by default you are not root. No permissions.
All I get is the Linux major parts on screen (Thunar?) or in the terminal. I cannot see any of installed or created files or directories from the original system--no Dolphin, no Youtube, no Gwenview, no Libre Office, nothing. Much less any files residing within them. --doug
I had to start a virtual machine to make the photos and post them here. That takes time and I had to sleep first. You have very little patience, rushing to buy useless windows drivers before we have a chance to answer. The procedure is very simple - just ignore the photo frame from VMware. Booting rescue system: https://susepaste.org/22928733 Rescue System has finished booting and you get a desktop: https://susepaste.org/426488 Selecting partition to mount: https://susepaste.org/28501245 And mounted: https://susepaste.org/89915557 Done. Remember that in your old HOME there will not be any application, just data files. So, "no Dolphin, no Youtube, no Gwenview, no Libre Office". -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.2 x86_64 at Telcontar)
On 4/28/21 8:32 AM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 28/04/2021 01.28, Doug McGarrett wrote:
On 4/27/21 6:42 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 28/04/2021 00.31, Doug McGarrett wrote:
On 4/27/21 4:46 AM, Carlos E.R. wrote:
On 27/04/2021 10.23, Michael Hamilton wrote:
Huh, better not use the installation disk in rescue mode because it is "text mode" and will confuse the hell out of Doug.
Better use the specific XFCE Rescue CD/USB stick, which is designed for the purpose and runs a full graphical desktop (without install option).
Thanx, Carlos--I made the usb-stick and booted on it. But I cannot seem to mount any of the partitions using the definitions in GParted, whether /dev/sda6 or nvme0n1p6, and
if I did, I don't see the second ssd in GParted--it doesn't seem to have the facility to change drives. Obviously doing something wrong, but I don't see what. Also cannot run fsck on the partitions--"Possibly non-existent device?" What have I missed this time?
You ares supposed to get the XFCE desktop. There will be icons for the
disks, just double click on them. If there are no icons, the open the file manager (Thunar).
Remember that by default you are not root. No permissions.
All I get is the Linux major parts on screen (Thunar?) or in the terminal. I cannot see any of installed or created files or directories from the original system--no Dolphin, no Youtube, no Gwenview, no Libre Office, nothing. Much less any files residing within them. --doug
I had to start a virtual machine to make the photos and post them here. That takes time and I had to sleep first. You have very little patience, rushing to buy useless windows drivers before we have a chance to answer.
The procedure is very simple - just ignore the photo frame from VMware. The photo frame from VMware is probably the key! The boot stick that you had me download does not produce any video like the pictures you show here. If I had that display, I probably would not be writing this memo. Going to the internet and looking up the "OpenSUSE 13.1 factry - VMware Workstation 16" player indicates a batch of failures. Is there a version of this that has the problems fixed?
I wasn't thinking about the actual apps when I wrote the previous memos; it makes sense that I wouldn't see the apps, but the data, which is what I need, of course. I'm sorry if I seem impatient! You have a lot of other things to do--OTOH, I am retired, and using the computer is one of the things that keep me occupied, other than reading and maintaining the yard, etc., so I attack the problems at once. Thank you for your interest! --doug
Booting rescue system:
https://susepaste.org/22928733
Rescue System has finished booting and you get a desktop:
Selecting partition to mount:
https://susepaste.org/28501245
And mounted:
https://susepaste.org/89915557
Done.
Remember that in your old HOME there will not be any application, just data files. So, "no Dolphin, no Youtube, no Gwenview, no Libre Office".
On 4/28/21 2:33 PM, Doug McGarrett wrote:
On 28/04/2021 01.28, Doug McGarrett wrote:
On 4/27/21 6:42 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 28/04/2021 00.31, Doug McGarrett wrote:
On 4/27/21 4:46 AM, Carlos E.R. wrote:
On 27/04/2021 10.23, Michael Hamilton wrote:
Huh, better not use the installation disk in rescue mode because it is "text mode" and will confuse the hell out of Doug.
Better use the specific XFCE Rescue CD/USB stick, which is designed for the purpose and runs a full graphical desktop (without install option).
Thanx, Carlos--I made the usb-stick and booted on it. But I cannot seem to mount any of the partitions using the definitions in GParted, whether /dev/sda6 or nvme0n1p6, and
if I did, I don't see the second ssd in GParted--it doesn't seem to have the facility to change drives. Obviously doing something wrong, but I don't see what. Also cannot run fsck on the partitions--"Possibly non-existent device?" What have I missed this time?
You ares supposed to get the XFCE desktop. There will be icons for the
disks, just double click on them. If there are no icons, the open the file manager (Thunar).
Remember that by default you are not root. No permissions.
All I get is the Linux major parts on screen (Thunar?) or in the terminal. I cannot see any of installed or created files or directories from the original system--no Dolphin, no Youtube, no Gwenview, no Libre Office, nothing. Much less any files residing within them. --doug
I had to start a virtual machine to make the photos and post them here. That takes time and I had to sleep first. You have very little patience, rushing to buy useless windows drivers before we have a chance to answer.
The procedure is very simple - just ignore the photo frame from VMware. The photo frame from VMware is probably the key! The boot stick that you had me download does not produce any video like the pictures you show here. If I had that display, I
On 4/28/21 8:32 AM, Carlos E. R. wrote: probably would not be writing this memo. Going to the internet and looking up the "OpenSUSE 13.1 factry - VMware Workstation 16" player indicates a batch of failures. Is there a version of this that has the problems fixed?
I wasn't thinking about the actual apps when I wrote the previous memos; it makes sense that I wouldn't see the apps, but the data, which is what I need, of course.
I'm sorry if I seem impatient! You have a lot of other things to do--OTOH, I am retired, and using the computer is one of the things that keep me occupied, other than reading and maintaining the yard, etc., so I attack the problems at once.
Thank you for your interest! --doug
Booting rescue system:
https://susepaste.org/22928733
Rescue System has finished booting and you get a desktop:
Selecting partition to mount:
https://susepaste.org/28501245
And mounted:
https://susepaste.org/89915557
Done.
Remember that in your old HOME there will not be any application, just data files. So, "no Dolphin, no Youtube, no Gwenview, no Libre Office".
Hello, Carlos-- I guess I messed up again. It occurs to me that even if I could get to the actual files from the Thunar desktop-- which, at the moment, I can't--what would I do with them? I don't see a means of saving them off to some disk or stick. Whereas the Windows routine allows me to actually put the file onto a directory in the Windows system. I'm sorry to be so obtuse, but I'm pretty much snowed here. --doug
On 28/04/2021 21.48, Doug McGarrett wrote:
On 4/28/21 2:33 PM, Doug McGarrett wrote:
On 4/28/21 8:32 AM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
...
I guess I messed up again. It occurs to me that even if I could get to the actual files from the Thunar desktop-- which, at the moment, I can't--what would I do with them? I don't see a
means of saving them off to some disk or stick. Whereas the Windows routine allows me to actually put the file onto a directory in the Windows system. I'm sorry to be so obtuse, but I'm pretty much snowed here.
Well, if you are using an USB stick for the rescue system you can save those files in the stick, if they are not big. Otherwise, plug in an external hard disk used for backups. Or another big enough USB stick. Or another partition in the hard disk that you know you are not going to destroy or format. You may even write them to the windows partition (not sure of this, though). -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.2 x86_64 at Telcontar)
On 4/28/21 5:01 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 28/04/2021 21.48, Doug McGarrett wrote:
On 4/28/21 2:33 PM, Doug McGarrett wrote:
On 4/28/21 8:32 AM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
...
I guess I messed up again. It occurs to me that even if I could get to the actual files from the Thunar desktop-- which, at the moment, I can't--what would I do with them? I don't see a
means of saving them off to some disk or stick. Whereas the Windows routine allows me to actually put the file onto a directory in the Windows system. I'm sorry to be so obtuse, but I'm pretty much snowed here.
Well, if you are using an USB stick for the rescue system you can save those files in the stick, if they are not big.
Otherwise, plug in an external hard disk used for backups. Or another big enough USB stick. Or another partition in the hard disk that you know you are not going to destroy or format.
You may even write them to the windows partition (not sure of this, though).
On 28/04/2021 21.48, Doug McGarrett wrote:
On 4/28/21 2:33 PM, Doug McGarrett wrote:
On 4/28/21 8:32 AM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
...
I guess I messed up again. It occurs to me that even if I could get to the actual files from the Thunar desktop-- which, at the moment, I can't--what would I do with them? I don't see a
means of saving them off to some disk or stick. Whereas the Windows routine allows me to actually put the file onto a directory in the Windows system. I'm sorry to be so obtuse, but I'm pretty much snowed here.
Well, if you are using an USB stick for the rescue system you can save those files in the stick, if they are not big.
Otherwise, plug in an external hard disk used for backups. Or another big enough USB stick. Or another partition in the hard disk that you know you are not going to destroy or format.
You may even write them to the windows partition (not sure of this, though). OK. I have not been able to get a single solitary file from this Thunar
On 4/28/21 5:01 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote: directory. It does not see inside any of the widgets it shows. You're right about wasting money on the Windows app. All I got was a humongously long password, but nothing additional! But at least it was able to see a few files, probably from the original /home/documents. And one picture! All that for free. The additional payment produced zip. Since you have this app on your system, have you tried to open one of the widgets and find something you added to the system? If so, what is the magic trick to do so? For instance, the Windows app produced a series of files saved in Kate--most of which are of very minor value, but IT WORKED. I ought to be able to get those same files via Thunar, since I know they exist. But no. --doug
On 29/04/2021 01.35, Doug McGarrett wrote:
On 4/28/21 5:01 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 28/04/2021 21.48, Doug McGarrett wrote:
On 4/28/21 2:33 PM, Doug McGarrett wrote:
On 4/28/21 8:32 AM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
...
I guess I messed up again. It occurs to me that even if I could get to the actual files from the Thunar desktop-- which, at the moment, I can't--what would I do with them? I don't see a
means of saving them off to some disk or stick. Whereas the Windows routine allows me to actually put the file onto a directory in the Windows system. I'm sorry to be so obtuse, but I'm pretty much snowed
here.
Well, if you are using an USB stick for the rescue system you can save
those files in the stick, if they are not big.
Otherwise, plug in an external hard disk used for backups. Or another big enough USB stick. Or another partition in the hard disk that you know you are not going to destroy or format.
You may even write them to the windows partition (not sure of this, though). OK. I have not been able to get a single solitary file from this Thunar
directory. It does not see inside any of the widgets it shows. You're right about wasting money on the Windows app. All I got was a humongously long password, but nothing additional! But at least it was able to see a few files, probably from the original /home/documents. And one picture! All that for free. The additional payment produced zip.
Since you have this app on your system, have you tried to open one of the widgets and find something you added to the system? If so, what is the magic trick to do so? For instance, the Windows app produced a series of files saved in Kate--most of which are of very minor value, but IT WORKED. I ought to be able to get those same files via Thunar, since I know they exist. But no.
No trick, I have done it a hundred times. It is just the same desktop I use every day. Click to mount, select files, copy then paste, or drag with the mouse. Same thing for the last two decades. You saw the photo I posted that it does see inside in here. Check the log, maybe your HOME filesystem is corrupted. Don't ask where the log is, same place always. dmesg or journalctl. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.2 x86_64 at Telcontar)
On 28/04/2021 20.33, Doug McGarrett wrote:
On 4/28/21 8:32 AM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 28/04/2021 01.28, Doug McGarrett wrote:
..
All I get is the Linux major parts on screen (Thunar?) or in the terminal. I cannot see any of installed or created files or directories from the original system--no Dolphin, no Youtube, no Gwenview, no Libre Office, nothing. Much less any files residing within them. --doug
I had to start a virtual machine to make the photos and post them here. That takes time and I had to sleep first. You have very little patience, rushing to buy useless windows drivers before we have a chance to answer.
The procedure is very simple - just ignore the photo frame from VMware. The photo frame from VMware is probably the key! The boot stick that you had me download does not produce any video like the pictures you show here. If I had that display, I probably would not be writing this memo. Going to the internet and looking up the "OpenSUSE 13.1 factry - VMware Workstation 16" player indicates a batch
of failures. Is there a version of this that has the problems fixed?
There you go again on a tangent. I told you "just ignore the photo frame from VMware". If can't ignore it, then take a black ink brush and hide the frame from view. Do I need to take photoshop and hide it for you and repost the photos? Sigh... :-/ -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.2 x86_64 at Telcontar)
On 4/27/21 7:28 PM, Doug McGarrett wrote:
On 4/27/21 6:42 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 28/04/2021 00.31, Doug McGarrett wrote:
On 4/27/21 4:46 AM, Carlos E.R. wrote:
On 27/04/2021 10.23, Michael Hamilton wrote:
Huh, better not use the installation disk in rescue mode because it is
"text mode" and will confuse the hell out of Doug.
Better use the specific XFCE Rescue CD/USB stick, which is designed for the purpose and runs a full graphical desktop (without install option).
Thanx, Carlos--I made the usb-stick and booted on it. But I cannot seem
to mount any of the partitions using the definitions in GParted, whether /dev/sda6 or nvme0n1p6, and if I did, I don't see the second ssd in GParted--it doesn't seem to have the facility to change drives. Obviously doing something wrong, but I don't see what. Also cannot run fsck on the partitions--"Possibly non-existent device?" What have I missed this time?
You ares supposed to get the XFCE desktop. There will be icons for the disks, just double click on them. If there are no icons, the open the file manager (Thunar).
Remember that by default you are not root. No permissions.
All I get is the Linux major parts on screen (Thunar?) or in the terminal. I cannot see any of installed or created files or directories from the original system--no Dolphin, no Youtube, no Gwenview, no Libre Office, nothing. Much less any files residing within them. --doug
Doug, Trying to recover your files using a GUI might be a mistake, or at least not as easy or simple as we'd first think. Learning four or five commands you enter into a terminal window might give you what you need. Have you ever used a terminal window in Linux? Or would you like to try it? If so, boot up the linux you have on your flash drive and try running these two commands, and copy-and-paste the output from both into an email back to us: df . (That's four characters, then hit Enter.) lsblk (That's five characters, then hit enter.) A little bit of knowledge can go a long way.
On 4/29/21 10:24 AM, kf wrote:
On 4/27/21 7:28 PM, Doug McGarrett wrote:
On 4/27/21 6:42 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 28/04/2021 00.31, Doug McGarrett wrote:
On 4/27/21 4:46 AM, Carlos E.R. wrote:
On 27/04/2021 10.23, Michael Hamilton wrote:
Huh, better not use the installation disk in rescue mode because it is
"text mode" and will confuse the hell out of Doug.
Better use the specific XFCE Rescue CD/USB stick, which is designed for the purpose and runs a full graphical desktop (without install option).
Thanx, Carlos--I made the usb-stick and booted on it. But I cannot seem
to mount any of the partitions using the definitions in GParted, whether /dev/sda6 or nvme0n1p6, and if I did, I don't see the second ssd in GParted--it doesn't seem to have the facility to change drives. Obviously doing something wrong, but I don't see what. Also cannot run fsck on the partitions--"Possibly non-existent device?" What have I missed this time?
You ares supposed to get the XFCE desktop. There will be icons for the disks, just double click on them. If there are no icons, the open the file manager (Thunar).
Remember that by default you are not root. No permissions.
All I get is the Linux major parts on screen (Thunar?) or in the terminal. I cannot see any of installed or created files or directories from the original system--no Dolphin, no Youtube, no Gwenview, no Libre Office, nothing. Much less any files residing within them. --doug
Doug,
Trying to recover your files using a GUI might be a mistake, or at least not as easy or simple as we'd first think. Learning four or five commands you enter into a terminal window might give you what you need. Have you ever used a terminal window in Linux? Or would you like to try it?
If so, boot up the linux you have on your flash drive and try running these two commands, and copy-and-paste the output from both into an email back to us:
df . (That's four characters, then hit Enter.)
lsblk
(That's five characters, then hit enter.)
A little bit of knowledge can go a long way. I'm familiar with working with the terminal. I wish there was a way to copy the results to a disk or I could photograph the results and paste the photo here, but I don't know how to do that. I will try to enter what I wrote down:
df . Filesystem 1k-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on airootfs 4013344 1060 4012284 1% / lsblk NAME MAJ:MIN RM SIZE R0 TYPE MOUNTPOINT loop0 7:0 0 650.8M 1 loop /run/archiso/bootmnt sda 8:0 0 465.8G 0 disk | sda1 8:1 0 465.8G 0 part sdb 8:16 1 7.26 0 disk | sdb1 8:17 1 7:2M 0 part | sdb2 8:18 1 1.4M 0 /run/archiso/bootmnt sr0 11:0 1 102.4M 0 rom nvme0n1 259:0 0 465.86 0 disk |—nvme0n 1p1 259:1 0 256M 0 part |—same but 1p2 259:2 0 256M 0 part |— etc etc misc. # 0 etc |—mvme)n 1p9 259:9 0 40s0M 0 part I hope that's all correct. Thank you for your interest.--doug
On 29/04/2021 21.30, Doug McGarrett wrote:
On 4/29/21 10:24 AM, kf wrote:
On 4/27/21 7:28 PM, Doug McGarrett wrote:
On 4/27/21 6:42 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 28/04/2021 00.31, Doug McGarrett wrote:
On 4/27/21 4:46 AM, Carlos E.R. wrote:
On 27/04/2021 10.23, Michael Hamilton wrote:
...
If so, boot up the linux you have on your flash drive and try running these two commands, and copy-and-paste the output from both into an email back to us:
df . (That's four characters, then hit Enter.)
lsblk
(That's five characters, then hit enter.)
A little bit of knowledge can go a long way.
I'm familiar with working with the terminal. I wish there was a way to copy the results to a disk or I could photograph the results and paste the photo here, but I don't know how to do that.
You can use the "PrintScreen" key and it should save a photo. Or you can simply use the mouse to select the text, then menu edit/copy, and in the mail program edit/paste. As simple as that. Otherwise, take a photo with your phone and post it.
I will try to enter what I wrote down:
df . Filesystem 1k-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on airootfs 4013344 1060 4012284 1% /
That, of course, just tells the size and available size of the flash disk aka rescue system, the current disk (that's what the dot means, the current disk). Yes, if it is an USB you can simply save files there (if it is the XFCE rescue system I told you to use). if you use instead "df -h" it will tell the sizes of all the disks present.
lsblk NAME MAJ:MIN RM SIZE R0 TYPE MOUNTPOINT
loop0 7:0 0 650.8M 1 loop /run/archiso/bootmnt
sda 8:0 0 465.8G 0 disk | sda1 8:1 0 465.8G 0 part
This is a 500 GB disk, it seems. Not mounted.
sdb 8:16 1 7.26 0 disk | sdb1 8:17 1 7:2M 0 part | sdb2 8:18 1 1.4M 0 /run/archiso/bootmnt
sdb seems to be the rescue system.
sr0 11:0 1 102.4M 0 rom
This could be a CD.
nvme0n1 259:0 0 465.86 0 disk |—nvme0n 1p1 259:1 0 256M 0 part |—same but 1p2 259:2 0 256M 0 part |— etc etc misc. # 0 etc |—mvme)n 1p9 259:9 0 40s0M 0 part
I hope that's all correct.
The important part for you is the nvme disk, you can see three partitions. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.2 x86_64 at Telcontar)
On 4/29/21 5:56 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 29/04/2021 21.30, Doug McGarrett wrote:
On 4/29/21 10:24 AM, kf wrote:
On 4/27/21 7:28 PM, Doug McGarrett wrote:
On 4/27/21 6:42 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 28/04/2021 00.31, Doug McGarrett wrote:
On 4/27/21 4:46 AM, Carlos E.R. wrote: > On 27/04/2021 10.23, Michael Hamilton wrote:
...
If so, boot up the linux you have on your flash drive and try running these two commands, and copy-and-paste the output from both into an email back to us:
df . (That's four characters, then hit Enter.)
lsblk
(That's five characters, then hit enter.)
A little bit of knowledge can go a long way.
I'm familiar with working with the terminal. I wish there was a way to copy the results to a disk or I could photograph the results and paste the photo here, but I don't know how to do that.
You can use the "PrintScreen" key and it should save a photo. Or you can simply use the mouse to select the text, then menu edit/copy, and in the mail program edit/paste. As simple as that.
Otherwise, take a photo with your phone and post it.
I will try to enter what I wrote down:
df . Filesystem 1k-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on airootfs 4013344 1060 4012284 1% /
That, of course, just tells the size and available size of the flash disk aka rescue system, the current disk (that's what the dot means, the current disk). Yes, if it is an USB you can simply save files there (if it is the XFCE rescue system I told you to use).
if you use instead "df -h" it will tell the sizes of all the disks present.
lsblk NAME MAJ:MIN RM SIZE R0 TYPE MOUNTPOINT
loop0 7:0 0 650.8M 1 loop /run/archiso/bootmnt
sda 8:0 0 465.8G 0 disk | sda1 8:1 0 465.8G 0 part
This is a 500 GB disk, it seems. Not mounted.
sdb 8:16 1 7.26 0 disk | sdb1 8:17 1 7:2M 0 part | sdb2 8:18 1 1.4M 0 /run/archiso/bootmnt
sdb seems to be the rescue system.
sr0 11:0 1 102.4M 0 rom
This could be a CD.
nvme0n1 259:0 0 465.86 0 disk |—nvme0n 1p1 259:1 0 256M 0 part |—same but 1p2 259:2 0 256M 0 part |— etc etc misc. # 0 etc |—mvme)n 1p9 259:9 0 40s0M 0 part
I hope that's all correct.
The important part for you is the nvme disk, you can see three partitions.
The question is, how can I read files off the nvme partitions? I assume that the three partitions are the two "working" partitions for the system plus swap. (The recovery disk already told me about the nvme partition names. I can clearly see the working partitions, I just can't access them.) --doug
On 30/04/2021 01.06, Doug McGarrett wrote:
On 4/29/21 5:56 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 29/04/2021 21.30, Doug McGarrett wrote:
The important part for you is the nvme disk, you can see three partitions.
The question is, how can I read files off the nvme partitions? I assume
that the three partitions are the two "working" partitions for the system plus swap. (The recovery disk already told me about the nvme partition names. I can clearly see the working partitions, I just can't
access them.)
I told you, just double click on the partition icon. As you do on any computer for the last two decades or three. If that doesn't work, you have a BIIIIG problem. Open a terminal, "su -" to root, and run "dmesg -Hw". Leave it running, and doubleclick on one of the partition icons. What NEW text do you see appearing in the terminal with demsg on it? -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.2 x86_64 at Telcontar)
Doug, et al -- ...and then Doug McGarrett said... % % I'm familiar with working with the terminal. I wish there was a way % to copy the results to a disk or I could photograph the [snip] Photos? How primitive ;-) Mouse-n-paste is quite effective, I must admit. If you have a lot, though, use script(1). Invoke as script /path/to/outputfile # new prompt here # run your commands exit When the program exits, you will have a copy in outputfile of everything that showed up on your screen. For fun not particularly useful here, check out the -t option :-) HTH & HAND :-D -- David T-G See http://justpickone.org/davidtg/email/ See http://justpickone.org/davidtg/tofu.txt
On 2021-04-27 3:45 a.m., Doug McGarrett wrote:
I am assuming that if I can boot a Linux system from CD that I can then read the internal drive and copy files to another drive. If I'm wrong, then what do you suggest? Please keep it as simple as possible, I'm not a guru!
"Simple" is a relative concept. If I can supply a "Type this ... 1...2..3.." then you don't need to understand. Right? You aren't asking for a solution. You've decided on a solution, you're just asking how to get there. "Crashed" - meaning what? Meaning you've been tracking with a disk monitor and ignored degradation? Meaning you had a power loss and a head crash? Must be an old drive. If that's the case then a recovery, perhaps booting from a Knoppix CD, and mounting the old disk to copy from isn't going to work 'cost the old disk is 'crashed'. There are many reasons you might not be able to boot. heck, this is tumbleweed! You might have screwed a kernel (why I keep back-issues around as alternative boots), grub or the MBR. If so then all your 'data' is fine, your DISK isn't crashed, it is still intact. You need to repair what was wrong -- the kernel, grub or MBR. And while you're at it, run FSCK and check logs for disk performance. All that's well documented on the net. Given the above, I going to proclaim loudly: BTDT ____ _____ ____ _____ | __ ) |_ _| | _ \ |_ _| | _ \ | | | | | | | | | |_) | | | | |_| | | | |____/ |_| |____/ |_| I could boot from the LiveCD, fix up the old disk and then reboot, but I gather yu don't have the skills for simply that.. Well OK..... But it might be simple. On a booted system you could check the logs on the old disk and perhaps that will supply illumination if not enlightenment. Perhaps there is a clear like about "missing ..." My googling years ago led me to: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/General_troubleshooting#Boot_problems I picked up on If booting the system is not possible, boot from a live image and change root to the existing system. And yes there is a "1 ..2..3.." for that subsequently documented "Mounting and chrooting a broken system" I have that printed out, along with handwritten notes, in a folder on my desk. Well the TL;DR is that if you disk is crashed then the disk is damaged and you can't get at the files. BTDT That's where I learnt about Schroedinger's backups. If you _system_ crashed and not your disk drive then unless the crash was a 'dance fandango over your drive' then it's a software problem,: MBR, GRUB, initramfs/initrd. Logs may indicate which. The above described 'boot and mount and chroot' Accuracy of the description of the problem and not presuming about the solution are essential for realistic determination of the status. As I say, if you disk really has crashed the data isn't going to be that recoverable. If the data can be recovered by a LiveCD boot and mount of the old disk then it is also system repairable by that method. As for a boot disk, well I've found that Knoppix is fantastic for booting under just about any conditions, but there are plenty of LiveCD/DVD system, one for SUSE-KDE and SUSE-Gnome as well. You don't have to recourse to the install disk. As I move to each new release I also update my collection of LiveCD/DVD. It doesn't cost me apart from time since I buy my DVDs in bulk for backups (q.v. many other posts I've made on that subject). -- “Reality is so complex, we must move away from dogma, whether it’s conspiracy theories or free-market,” -- James Glattfelder. http://jth.ch/jbg
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