[opensuse] JAVA revisited, need clarifications
Hi list, I'm afraid this question reveals a lot of holes in my knowledge. Well, on the other hand, there are other things I know about, please foregive me :-) Will someone be kind enough and explain the correlation between the various JAVA stuff. This way I'll be able to set things up manually if need be. My problems are most likely not related to my JAVA version(s), but more likely that my general JAVA setup is flawed. To start with, I download a JRE from SUN. Not the JDK, I'm not developing things, just running JAVA stuff, right? I'll install that using whatever, most likely RPM or the binary selfextracing SUN file. This will put some JAVA stuff into a directory below /usr/lib/some-java-directory. The binary java of which is the very file thats giving me an answer when in a shell I give: "java -version". The word 'java' in itself is a symlink placed in /etc/alternatives, right? In /etc/alternatives there is a link to 'jre', I guess that needs to point to somewhere down into the /usr/lib/jave structure? As well as the link /etc/alternatives/jvm should point to somewhere sensible? Now, down deep into /usr/lib/java I find a file under '.../i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so. I place a symlink to this file in /home/my-user-name/.mozilla/plugins/., right? I then fire up FF and goto java.com to see what java I have installed? I could also point FF to about:plugins to reveal more info? What have I missed here. I suppose the two files (the java binary itself and the oji-thing) should have the same origin? Or what? And mind you, I didn't ask about Seamonkey og Icedtea and all the other interesting stuff that aparently has to do with JAVA too...? Again, I'm most thankful for any clarification that will be written. I hope others can use this as well. All this arises because JAVA was automatically updated in my openSuSE11.1 yesterday morning. This causes my netbank (and literally thousand of other openSUSE users in this coundtry) not to work anymore. Once fixed, I suppose I can lock the dammed thing so it won't happen again! -- ------------------------------ Med venlig hilsen/Best regards Verner Kjærsgaard -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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I'm afraid this question reveals a lot of holes in my knowledge. Well, on the other hand, there are other things I know about, please foregive me :-)
Will someone be kind enough and explain the correlation between the various JAVA stuff. This way I'll be able to set things up manually if need be. My problems are most likely not related to my JAVA version(s), but more likely that my general JAVA setup is flawed.
To start with, I download a JRE from SUN. Not the JDK, I'm not developing things, just running JAVA stuff, right?
you would probably save yourself a lot of work and heartache if you would start using the opensuse repos and software.opensuse.org/search and get packages that were built to work *with* your system :^) -- Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA HOG # US1244711 http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://counter.li.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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[08-29-09 04:21]: I'm afraid this question reveals a lot of holes in my knowledge. Well, on the other hand, there are other things I know about, please foregive me :-)
Will someone be kind enough and explain the correlation between the various JAVA stuff. This way I'll be able to set things up manually if need be. My problems are most likely not related to my JAVA version(s), but more likely that my general JAVA setup is flawed.
To start with, I download a JRE from SUN. Not the JDK, I'm not developing things, just running JAVA stuff, right?
you would probably save yourself a lot of work and heartache if you would start using the opensuse repos and software.opensuse.org/search and get packages that were built to work *with* your system :^)
- Thank you Patric... - but I and 1000s of other danish users unfortunately need to employ a few very specific version (update this or that) from SUN in order for them to be able to access their bank. This is certainly not the fault of openSuSE, it's the fault of the stupid bank system, that demands and only works with a few (older) defined java versions. That's why I/we have all this trouble. The openjdk thing which is what you refer to (?) doesn't work with this odd *very secure* bank system.... -- ------------------------------ Med venlig hilsen/Best regards Verner Kjærsgaard -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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Patrick Shanahan skrev:
you would probably save yourself a lot of work and heartache if you would start using the opensuse repos and software.opensuse.org/search and get packages that were built to work *with* your system :^)
- but I and 1000s of other danish users unfortunately need to employ a few very specific version (update this or that) from SUN in order for them to be able to access their bank.
This is certainly not the fault of openSuSE, it's the fault of the stupid bank system, that demands and only works with a few (older) defined java versions.
That's why I/we have all this trouble.
The openjdk thing which is what you refer to (?) doesn't work with this odd *very secure* bank system....
well, I only have openSUSE provided rpm's except for vlc: java-1_6_0-sun-plugin-1.6.0.u15-1.3 java-1_6_0-sun-1.6.0.u15-1.3 java-1_6_0-openjdk-1.6.0.0_b16-3.3 java-1_6_0-sun-alsa-1.6.0.u15-1.3 java-1_6_0-openjdk-plugin-1.6.0.0_b16-3.3 and I keep the sun version listed above active.... -- Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA HOG # US1244711 http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://counter.li.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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[08-29-09 16:19]: Patrick Shanahan skrev:
you would probably save yourself a lot of work and heartache if you would start using the opensuse repos and software.opensuse.org/search and get packages that were built to work *with* your system :^)
- but I and 1000s of other danish users unfortunately need to employ a few very specific version (update this or that) from SUN in order for them to be able to access their bank.
This is certainly not the fault of openSuSE, it's the fault of the stupid bank system, that demands and only works with a few (older) defined java versions.
That's why I/we have all this trouble.
The openjdk thing which is what you refer to (?) doesn't work with this odd *very secure* bank system....
well, I only have openSUSE provided rpm's except for vlc:
java-1_6_0-sun-plugin-1.6.0.u15-1.3 java-1_6_0-sun-1.6.0.u15-1.3 java-1_6_0-openjdk-1.6.0.0_b16-3.3 java-1_6_0-sun-alsa-1.6.0.u15-1.3 java-1_6_0-openjdk-plugin-1.6.0.0_b16-3.3
and I keep the sun version listed above active....
Thank you Patrick, - this indeed is a clarification :-) - the one I could use would be the second in the list. - of course in YaST searching for jre doesn't give me anything SUN java at all. I guess because the correct repos are not listed. What repos should I include? - and oh...thanks a lot for your and all others time and effort to help! -- ------------------------------ Med venlig hilsen/Best regards Verner Kjærsgaard -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Verner Kjærsgaard skrev:
Patrick Shanahan skrev:
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[08-29-09 16:19]: Patrick Shanahan skrev:
you would probably save yourself a lot of work and heartache if you would start using the opensuse repos and software.opensuse.org/search and get packages that were built to work *with* your system :^)
- but I and 1000s of other danish users unfortunately need to employ a few very specific version (update this or that) from SUN in order for them to be able to access their bank.
This is certainly not the fault of openSuSE, it's the fault of the stupid bank system, that demands and only works with a few (older) defined java versions.
That's why I/we have all this trouble.
The openjdk thing which is what you refer to (?) doesn't work with this odd *very secure* bank system....
well, I only have openSUSE provided rpm's except for vlc:
java-1_6_0-sun-plugin-1.6.0.u15-1.3 java-1_6_0-sun-1.6.0.u15-1.3 java-1_6_0-openjdk-1.6.0.0_b16-3.3 java-1_6_0-sun-alsa-1.6.0.u15-1.3 java-1_6_0-openjdk-plugin-1.6.0.0_b16-3.3
and I keep the sun version listed above active....
Thank you Patrick,
- this indeed is a clarification :-) - the one I could use would be the second in the list. - of course in YaST searching for jre doesn't give me anything SUN java at all. I guess because the correct repos are not listed.
What repos should I include?
- and oh...thanks a lot for your and all others time and effort to help!
I'm now downloading/intalling SUN java through YaST. For the oddest reason the repo non-oss WAS DESABLED! How on earth did that happen... Well it seems I'm back on track, the list of JAVA's shown when askings YaST look very fine. -- ------------------------------ Med venlig hilsen/Best regards Verner Kjærsgaard -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Verner Kjærsgaard skrev:
Verner Kjærsgaard skrev:
Patrick Shanahan skrev:
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[08-29-09 16:19]: Patrick Shanahan skrev:
you would probably save yourself a lot of work and heartache if you would start using the opensuse repos and software.opensuse.org/search and get packages that were built to work *with* your system :^)
- but I and 1000s of other danish users unfortunately need to employ a few very specific version (update this or that) from SUN in order for them to be able to access their bank.
This is certainly not the fault of openSuSE, it's the fault of the stupid bank system, that demands and only works with a few (older) defined java versions.
That's why I/we have all this trouble.
The openjdk thing which is what you refer to (?) doesn't work with this odd *very secure* bank system....
well, I only have openSUSE provided rpm's except for vlc:
java-1_6_0-sun-plugin-1.6.0.u15-1.3 java-1_6_0-sun-1.6.0.u15-1.3 java-1_6_0-openjdk-1.6.0.0_b16-3.3 java-1_6_0-sun-alsa-1.6.0.u15-1.3 java-1_6_0-openjdk-plugin-1.6.0.0_b16-3.3
and I keep the sun version listed above active.... Thank you Patrick,
- this indeed is a clarification :-) - the one I could use would be the second in the list. - of course in YaST searching for jre doesn't give me anything SUN java at all. I guess because the correct repos are not listed.
What repos should I include?
- and oh...thanks a lot for your and all others time and effort to help!
I'm now downloading/intalling SUN java through YaST. For the oddest reason the repo non-oss WAS DESABLED!
How on earth did that happen...
Well it seems I'm back on track, the list of JAVA's shown when askings YaST look very fine.
Thanks to all, including Patrick who game me the final clue :-) This is what I did... Fixed the non-oss repo so that it (again) was active in YaST repos. Selected SUN java version 1.6 from same repo in YaST. Installed it. Renamed /home/my-home/.mozilla to dot_mozilla, thus forcing FF re-create one on next start. Started FF, closed FF again. In the new .mozilla/firefox/ directory, I created a directory named plugins. Made sure I owned it, and set rights to 700. In the newly created plugins directory, I created a symlink to /etc/alternatives/jre_sun/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so Restarted FF, checked the bloo.. bank. It worked! -- ------------------------------ Med venlig hilsen/Best regards Verner Kjærsgaard -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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I'm now downloading/intalling SUN java through YaST. For the oddest reason the repo non-oss WAS DESABLED!
How on earth did that happen...
Sometimes it is necessary to look...
Well it seems I'm back on track, the list of JAVA's shown when askings YaST look very fine.
Thanks to all, including Patrick who game me the final clue :-) This is what I did...
Fixed the non-oss repo so that it (again) was active in YaST repos. Selected SUN java version 1.6 from same repo in YaST. Installed it. Renamed /home/my-home/.mozilla to dot_mozilla, thus forcing FF re-create one on next start. Started FF, closed FF again. In the new .mozilla/firefox/ directory, I created a directory named plugins. Made sure I owned it, and set rights to 700. In the newly created plugins directory, I created a symlink to
/etc/alternatives/jre_sun/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so
Restarted FF, checked the bloo.. bank. It worked!
I would believe that this was *all* because you tried to use a non-openSUSE package. But maybe you learn :^). -- Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA HOG # US1244711 http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://counter.li.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Sunday 30 of August 2009 12:46:18 Verner Kjærsgaard wrote:
Verner Kjærsgaard skrev:
Verner Kjærsgaard skrev:
Patrick Shanahan skrev:
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[08-29-09 16:19]: Patrick Shanahan skrev:
you would probably save yourself a lot of work and heartache if you would start using the opensuse repos and software.opensuse.org/search and get packages that were built to work *with* your system :^)
- but I and 1000s of other danish users unfortunately need to employ a few very specific version (update this or that) from SUN in order for them to be able to access their bank.
This is certainly not the fault of openSuSE, it's the fault of the stupid bank system, that demands and only works with a few (older) defined java versions.
That's why I/we have all this trouble.
The openjdk thing which is what you refer to (?) doesn't work with this odd *very secure* bank system....
well, I only have openSUSE provided rpm's except for vlc:
java-1_6_0-sun-plugin-1.6.0.u15-1.3 java-1_6_0-sun-1.6.0.u15-1.3 java-1_6_0-openjdk-1.6.0.0_b16-3.3 java-1_6_0-sun-alsa-1.6.0.u15-1.3 java-1_6_0-openjdk-plugin-1.6.0.0_b16-3.3
and I keep the sun version listed above active....
Thank you Patrick,
- this indeed is a clarification :-) - the one I could use would be the second in the list. - of course in YaST searching for jre doesn't give me anything SUN java at all. I guess because the correct repos are not listed.
What repos should I include?
- and oh...thanks a lot for your and all others time and effort to help!
I'm now downloading/intalling SUN java through YaST. For the oddest reason the repo non-oss WAS DESABLED!
The Sun Java is in NonFree repository (but updates are available in Update repo).
How on earth did that happen...
Well it seems I'm back on track, the list of JAVA's shown when askings YaST look very fine.
Thanks to all, including Patrick who game me the final clue :-) This is what I did...
Fixed the non-oss repo so that it (again) was active in YaST repos. Selected SUN java version 1.6 from same repo in YaST. Installed it. Renamed /home/my-home/.mozilla to dot_mozilla, thus forcing FF re-create one on next start. Started FF, closed FF again. In the new .mozilla/firefox/ directory, I created a directory named plugins. Made sure I owned it, and set rights to 700. In the newly created plugins directory, I created a symlink to
/etc/alternatives/jre_sun/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so
Restarted FF, checked the bloo.. bank. It worked!
Removal of the old symlink would be enough, because our Sun Java packages uses update-alternative system to manage a symlink to /usr/lib(64)/browser-plugins/ Regards Michal Vyskocil
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