KDE4 Devs, Guys, why can't konqueror file manager start up looking like it did when I last saved its profile and closed it? I use konqueror with the detailed list view. That's what I like. I want to see the most information about my filesystem in the smallest amount of space with the most detail. That's why the heck we have a 'list' or 'detailed' view and 'tree' view available. But the problem with KDE4 konqueror is you have to completely reconfigure the view every damn time you open it, just to get a decent detailed view back. A picture is worth a thousand words. Here is a screenshot showing the way konqueror opens up every time: (153k) http://www.3111skyline.com/dl/bugs/kde4/konq-onstart.jpg This configuration of konqueror is completely F'ed up. The entire 'places' window (left pane) is collapsed. Moreover it's NOT simply closed, it is STUCK in some screwed up state such that you cannot simply grab the resize handle and fix it -- it won't respond. Instead, every time you open konqueror, in order to get your places panel back you have to CLOSE IT, then REOPEN IT before you can even begin to resize it to make it look right. So every time I want to use konqueror, I have to: F9 + F9 + drag and resize the left places panel before I can even see the filesystem. That would be frustrating enough it that were the only problem with the way konqueror starts, but that it just the tip of the iceberg. The whole right had side file pane is screwed up as well. The column sizes are mucked up every time konqueror starts. It looks like konqueror outsmarts itself by resizing and collapsing all columns to make sure all columns fit in the right side no matter how many there are. This completely defeats the purpose of having the horizontal scroll bar at the bottom of the window. We wouldn't need a scroll bar if all the columns were supposed to try and cram themselves in only the space provided by the right file pane. (think about it) In the right column, I want to have the permissions, owner and group information 'immediately available' so if there is a problem with file access, or if I'm just curious, I can simply click the scroll bar and see a concise tabular listing of that information on all files in a directory. That ability is completely defeated by the way konqueror starts every time, until I go through the process of resizing each column to the size I like it every time I start konqueror. That's crap. Once I am finally done with the tedious process, I have konqueror back in a usable configuration: (140K) http://www.3111skyline.com/dl/bugs/kde4/konq-onstart-reset.jpg Then, because hope springs eternal, I diligently save my config with: Settings -> Save view profiles as... -> filemanagement Now saved, I expect konqueror filemanagement to open up looking the way it did when I saved the "view profile". Otherwise, what in the heck do we even have a "Save view profiles" option for. Not satisfied with simply saving the filemanagement "view profile", I even do one better. I go back and save the view profile under a completely different profile name, just in case there is some problem with the 'filemanagement' name -- lord knows it has been used many times over. So, I go back and: Settings -> Save view profiles as... -> dcrFM Unfortunately that too is a waste of time. Same results, opening dcrFM profile opens in the same broken way opening the filemanagement profile does. None of this would be nearly so frustrating aside from the fact that I identified this very issue during 4.3 beta 2 testing as soon and this bug was introduced and filed the bug report on June 9, 2009: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=195808 The bug is still listed as unconfirmed??? This is "incomprehensible incompetence." There is no excuse for letting bugs with a primary component of KDE languish for over a year. That however seems to be more of the norm with KDE4 than an exception. Spending exorbitant amounts of man-power and effort on useless eye-candy while letting real-wold functionality waste away seems to be the KDE4 M.O. Unfortunately this is but one example of many. What is the deal KDE4 devs??? (P.S. - yes I have reviewed the post and toned it down so everybody doesn't think I'm on a rant mission. I've changed all the original "hells" to "hecks" and so forth. But, I have got to tell you I am dismayed how KDE4 has squandered so much community good-will in the past two years that I'm to the point of just throwing in the towel on KDE4 and sticking with gnome and reminiscing about the elegance of KDE3 and how it all was squandered by a mismanaged and failed move to KDE4. KDE4 has some of the most brilliant desktop developers on the planet - the fault lies with the incompetent management of these resources throughout the entire KDE4 development process) -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. 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