On Monday 12 December 2005 8:07 pm, Anders Johansson wrote:

k3b does nothing you can't do from the command line or from a shell script. It's "just" a GUI frontend to command line utilities. In the output from k3b you can see the exact commands it runs, with parameters and everything. Why not run the same ones from your script?

Where does that output show up? If I call k3b from a terminal window instead of from the desktop, will I see it in the terminal window? And by the way, does anyone have more info about SuSE cdrecord and its relation to Georg Schilling's ProDVD? Paul

On Tuesday 13 December 2005 02:15, Paul W. Abrahams wrote:

Where does that output show up? If I call k3b from a terminal window instead of from the desktop, will I see it in the terminal window?

Not sure. But in the popup you get when you're actually burning a DVD, you have a button "show debugging output", which will show you the full info

And by the way, does anyone have more info about SuSE cdrecord and its relation to Georg Schilling's ProDVD?

First of all, it's Jörg, not Georg. Second, SUSE's version of the DVD tool chain means you don't need Schilling's stuff. SUSE's software is based on it, but it is capable of burning DVDs without any registration keys or anything

On Tuesday 13 December 2005 06:04, Ed Harrison wrote:

** Reply to message from Anders Johansson on Tue, 13 Dec 2005 02:30:21 +0100

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Second, SUSE's version of the DVD tool chain means you don't need Schilling's stuff. SUSE's software is based on it, but it is capable of burning DVDs without any registration keys or anything

How do I add the ProDVD key to xcdroast?

I can manually add it to /root/.xcdroast/xcdr.cfg, but it has no effect--even if I set it in the environment variable CDR_SECURITY>

Which part of "you don't need it" don't you understand? If you're not using SUSE software, please contact xcdroast or Mr. Schilling with such questions

On Tuesday 13 December 2005 00:40, Ed Harrison wrote:

** Reply to message from Anders Johansson on Tue, 13 Dec 2005 06:12:16 +0100

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Which part of "you don't need it" don't you understand?

If you're not using SUSE software, please contact xcdroast or Mr. Schilling with such questions

You know, I have always appreciated your excellent help to this list. This is uncalled for. If xcdroast would write a DVD, then I would not have asked. So, let's assume that I have a SuSE 10.0 installation and I chose "Gnome" during installation and all went well--no errors.

In xcdroast (running as root since it was not compiled with non-root support) from the SuSE 10 DVD, in Create Cd>>Master Tracks>>Create session/image where I am supposed to be able to choose DVD as a Disc Type, there is no such choice--only various sizes of CDs.

Therefore, I am using software from SuSE and it doesn't work AND "I (obviously) DO need it", or something similar, to make it work.

I was simply asking for your input.

Ed Harrison, Registered Linux User #199533 SuSE 10.0, Kernel 2.6.13 PolarBar Mailer 1.26 ========== Ed, I don't think Anders was trying to be rude to you. It's just that, as far as I could tell, they had tried explaining it to you already, yet you missed it or didn't understand it. Whichever, it's up to you to explain what wasn't clear, if you did not comprendo.

K3b is usable both in Gnome or KDE and if all programs needed by it are installed, DVD burning is quite simple. I haven't used XCDroast in a long time, but do it remember somewhat more confusing to use. Once acclimated to it, it's a pretty good program, but I'm not sure it's kept up as well as K3b. I'm sorry I can't be of much help with it, as I'm pretty well stuck on k3b, as many here are. Gnome programs, KDE programs are not just for the interface they were designed in, so most are as efficient working in one as the other. I just started xcdroast up and find it still at an older version. it also requires the programs you've mentioned in order to burn DVDs, else you are restricted to just CDs. Again, I like everyone else here, I suggest you use k3b for your DVD burning. regards, Lee

** Reply to message from BandiPat on Tue, 13 Dec 2005 09:51:50 -0500

Ed, I don't think Anders was trying to be rude to you. It's just that, as far as I could tell, they had tried explaining it to you already, yet you missed it or didn't understand it. Whichever, it's up to you to explain what wasn't clear, if you did not comprendo.

K3b is usable both in Gnome or KDE and if all programs needed by it are installed, DVD burning is quite simple. I haven't used XCDroast in a long time, but do it remember somewhat more confusing to use. Once acclimated to it, it's a pretty good program, but I'm not sure it's kept up as well as K3b. I'm sorry I can't be of much help with it, as I'm pretty well stuck on k3b, as many here are.

Gnome programs, KDE programs are not just for the interface they were designed in, so most are as efficient working in one as the other.

I just started xcdroast up and find it still at an older version. it also requires the programs you've mentioned in order to burn DVDs, else you are restricted to just CDs. Again, I like everyone else here, I suggest you use k3b for your DVD burning.

regards, Lee

I understand all that now with a fresher mind and several hours of research on how the under lying programs.

From an old file at http://www.seismo.ethz.ch/linux/xcdroast.html, Step 7, the solution is fairly simple:

1. get cdrecord-ProDVD 2. copy /usr/bin/cdrecord to /usr/bin/cdrecord_orig 3. copy downloaded prodvd binary to /usr/bin/cdrecord (date-limited useability, replace occasionally, current to 6/11/2006) 4. add to ~/.bashrc ( I added to /home/ed and to /root): CDR_SECURITY=[key from README file that comes with cdrecord-ProDVD] export CDR_SECURITY 5. log-out; log-in [even in a terminal window] 6. xcdroast Now all options for DVD are available. Ed Harrison, Registered Linux User #199533 SuSE 10.0, Kernel 2.6.15 PolarBar Mailer 1.26

On Tuesday 13 December 2005 12:12 am, Anders Johansson wrote:

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How do I add the ProDVD key to xcdroast? I can manually add it to /root/.xcdroast/xcdr.cfg, but it has no effect--even if I set it in the environment variable CDR_SECURITY> Which part of "you don't need it" don't you understand? If you're not using SUSE software, please contact xcdroast or Mr. Schilling with such questions

I'm using Mepis (Debian-based distro) and K3b burns DVD+Rs just fine. I am content to use K3b with the great results it delivers. However, in the quest for commands to use in a script, since K3b is just a user-friendly front end to various command line tools, I think the key is to analyze either K3b itself or perhaps documentation that is posted somewhere to discover what commands it issues when the various buttons are clicked. Bryan **************************************** Powered by Mepis Linux 3.3.1 KDE 3.3.2 KMail 1.7.2 This is a Microsoft-free computer Bryan S. Tyson bryantyson@earthlink.net ****************************************

On Monday 12 December 2005 8:07 pm, Anders Johansson wrote:

In the output from k3b you can see the exact commands it runs, with parameters and everything.

How does one view this output? Thank you. Bryan **************************************** Powered by Mepis Linux 3.3.1 KDE 3.3.2 KMail 1.7.2 This is a Microsoft-free computer Bryan S. Tyson bryantyson@earthlink.net ****************************************